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wifi4milez
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How are they doing this?

It was my understanding that Teksavvy was a true wholesale provider, meaning that they provided their own internet access and simply used the Bell copper last mile (as opposed to being a reseller). If they have all their own equipment, and are their own ISP, where is the throttling happening? Is Bell throttling the last mile between the customer and Teksavvy, and if so, how are they doing that?
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said by wifi4milez See Profile :

It was my understanding that Teksavvy was a true wholesale provider, meaning that they provided their own internet access and simply used the Bell copper last mile (as opposed to being a reseller). If they have all their own equipment, and are their own ISP, where is the throttling happening? Is Bell throttling the last mile between the customer and Teksavvy, and if so, how are they doing that?
Bell is still the last mile provider, as they own and provision the copper for voice and DSL, from the CO the traffic goes through Bell's nationwide ATM transit and then usually to Toronto where Bell sends off the packets to the provider's network.


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said by mlerner See Profile :

said by wifi4milez See Profile :

It was my understanding that Teksavvy was a true wholesale provider, meaning that they provided their own internet access and simply used the Bell copper last mile (as opposed to being a reseller). If they have all their own equipment, and are their own ISP, where is the throttling happening? Is Bell throttling the last mile between the customer and Teksavvy, and if so, how are they doing that?
Bell is still the last mile provider, as they own and provision the copper for voice and DSL, from the CO the traffic goes through Bell's nationwide ATM transit and then usually to Toronto where Bell sends off the packets to the provider's network.
So then Teksavvy doesnt have their own equipment in the CO's I take it? I believe that Covad does place their own equipment in all their serving CO's here in the US, so I assume this type of network management wouldnt affect them (in a similar situation)? If thats the case, Teksavvy may want to consider the (expensive) idea that they might need to follow suit in order to differentiate themselves from the Bell resellers.
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said by wifi4milez See Profile :

So then Teksavvy doesnt have their own equipment in the CO's I take it? I believe that Covad does place their own equipment in all their serving CO's here in the US, so I assume this type of network management wouldnt affect them (in a similar situation)? If thats the case, Teksavvy may want to consider the (expensive) idea that they might need to follow suit in order to differentiate themselves from the Bell resellers.
The majority of Bell resellers do not have their own equipment as Bell is providing the transit from the CO to the reseller's network reducing costs substantially, however there are some like Primus that have their own equipment in some areas and it's still very limited.

This has been discussed for the past few days and would be the only alternative. The problem is funding as it can cost tens of thousands of dollars per CO and the only funding that is viable is a partnership between the resellers which would depend on the resellers and whether it fits in their business plan.
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