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battleop

join:2005-09-28
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reply to Guspaz
Re: I hate having to start a subject....

I think someone has said that there is language in the contracts between Bell and the ISPs that allows for this. There is such language between AT&T and NSPs addressing the same thing. This language showed up with BellSouth as soon as they were able to have DSL deregulated.

backness

join:2005-07-08
K2P OW2

reply to JunkieXL
Also to the guy who says build your own.... have you ever been to Canada before?

The bell network was built entirly on Public Dollars. We built our own state of the art network from coast to coast only to be ripped off by bell once they had control of it.

This can't stand


JunkieXL

join:2004-11-15
Canada!

reply to anon1976
They actually did build their own. They have their own transit, network equipment and everything. It's the last mile they have to depend on the incumbent (BCE) for. The whole problem here emanates from BCE's interference with the last mile. Even if they had informed them beforehand, I don't see how that makes it right. As Carbidyne says, it does indeed hinge on the contract. I hope the lurking lawyers here shed some light upon it.

ps: would be nice if this leads the Indies to form a consortium and result in widespread investment in direct DSLAM presence. _Then_ BCE will have some real problem. The overwhelming political influence they have now essentially immunizes them from anything.


Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
reply to anon1976
Not when doing what they want with it is a breach of contract. Which is why we'll likely very shortly see legal action by the independent ISPs seeking an injunction.


anon1976

@rogers.com

reply to Raptor
I don't like it, but quite frankly it's their network, and they have a right to do what they want with it. If you don't like it, go build your own.

They should have informed the companies first, that I don't disagree with, and may land them in some trouble.


Raptor
Not a Dumptruck

join:2001-10-21
London, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
·Bell Sympatico

reply to battleop
Yes, very much so. The big deal here is up until very recently they weren't touching wholesale ISPs running on their lines. Perhaps these companies were stealing too many customers by offering a better service.

Now they've gone ahead and started throttling the traffic of other ISPs, which is one of the main attractions of switching to them - without telling these other ISPs of course, leaving said parties in the dark about why their customers are complaining about mysterious slowdowns.
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