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JoshC1

join:2007-09-25
Sanford, NC

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Is everyone getting so wrapped up with p2p? Smart people know and make the connection that p2p is just a smokescreen for what Comcast really wants for the future; eventually sites such as youtube and anything else that falls under "reasonable network management" will be throttled. Why does Comcast throttle using this method? I just don't understand that part of this HUGE issue. Why not boot the small percentage of hogs who saturate the network? If they can afford sandavine, then why not this? Why does Comcast throttle at all?
1) resistance to upgrading infrastructure?
2) Reasonable network management?
3) Keep people happy by giving the consumer advertised speed? (it is a greedy corp., so idk about this one)

Please somebody inform me. I don't want to hear ANY talk about p2p because that is WAY TOO NARROW. I want a broad picture from any of you fellow forumers of why Comcast is using this method, or why they even throttle at all. UNBIASED OPINIONS PLEASE. I want facts to support your assumptions, not opinions please.

Why am I asking? I need TRUTH about this subject.


Nightshade
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join:2002-05-26
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March 26th, @06:49PM

JoshC1, I have been asking the same questions myself. Maybe there is something more to the whole throttling thing, maybe there is not. I mean for me, I'd just kick the hogs off. I do have a theory though based on my own observations.

I think why Comcast throttles is that it is resistant to upgrading infrastructure and would rather overload their network than increase capacity. That, and I seriously honestly think they do not have a realistic model and view of internet usage.

I am going to deviate a little off the subject but I think you'll see why. You don't see just this case in their HSI, but also in their HD. Just recently they started to put three HD channels into each 38.8Mbps QAM, reducing the quality of their own HD channels by over compression. The reason why they are doing this is that they are waiting for DOCSIS 3.0 to come out. But DOCSIS 3.0 will not fix the HD because DOCSIS 3.0 was designed for allocating and combining data channels for internet access, not TV. So, unless Comcast upgrades their equipment, expect Comcast HD to be horrible. This is just an example of Comcast overloading their HD and "throttling" it by over compression, while attempting to add more HD channels. All for something that may not even be able to fix the problem in the first place. You can take this same thing and apply it to their HSI. No matter how much you throttle traffic, it will always be a band-aid solution that will never address the problems, the bandwidth hogs, and every Comcast customer suffers because of it.

DOCSIS 3.0 will do wonders for the HSI part. I hope that Comcast will take advantage of that, after all they seem to be all the buzz about it. But if Comcast doesn't seriously take another look at their network with a more realistic approach, especially with DOCSIS 3.0 coming out very soon, and deal with the network hogs then they are just all talk and no walk. We should know by the end of the year.

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travelguy

join:1999-09-03
Albuquerque, NM

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said by JoshC1 See Profile :

eventually sites such as youtube and anything else that falls under "reasonable network management" will be throttled. Why does Comcast throttle using this method? I just don't understand that part of this HUGE issue.
It's been said many times before, but I'll reiterate: Comcast and other retail bandwidth providers are scared to death of being dumb pipes. They want to collect a toll on every bit on top of what they collect from the end subscriber. In other words, the cellular model where both parties pay. P2P services interfere with that model, so they must be stopped.
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