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| Basic That is such a basic analogy that it is much easier to just say: "I pay the same fees as you do, I should get the same access as you"
In the end, cmarin is right. That doesn't mean I agree with him. It doesn't mean that I agree with Comcast. Unfortunately for a lot of end users (Me and you) taking our business elsewhere isn't an option. What, with 16/2 speeds and all. I am fortunate enough to have Verizon as another option, some people aren't this fortunate.
The speeds aren't quite as nice either (ADSL, no FIOS), but if bittorrent was a major issue for me, I'd probably be jumping ship to Verizon.
As I said, some people don't have this choice and I think Comcast realizes this. I would not doubt that they have more stringent policies on markets where no clear broadband alternatives are available.
I have usually found a way around each roadblock that I am presented with decreased bittorrent availability. If I wanted a game patch through WoW I'd instead go the HTTP route. It's not quite as convenient and it's pretty bad to bog down the servers with so much traffic for a game patch.
It's an issue of passing the buck really. Comcast doesn't want it all and likewise, server and website operators don't want it all.
In the end though, the ball is in Comcast or court. Bickering does nothing to resolve the problem. In our own minds, the practice is down right wrong. In Comcasts mind, they see it as what they need to do, in order to protect their network.
It's really a matter of forseeing the future. We all know that the Internet is slowly building up to an overload mode. Content and their accompanying file sizes are increasing faster than most carries can deliver it, being technologically bound or practically, they are stifled.
So I imagine bittorrent shaping/forgery to prevent this one method of mass media distribution is a huge way to cut costs and still deliver what over 90% of users need who sign up for internet in the first place.
This is a necessary evil to them. We know it and they know it. They cannot hardly sit back and throttle back HTTP connections or media traversing the basic protocols (Imagine the outcry) but what they CAN limit, they ARE limiting. They also do not want to go the hard cap route. It's bad PR and it won't get you new subscribers. | |
cmarin
join:2004-01-13
Boynton Beach, FL | said by casvdry :
That is such a basic analogy that it is much easier to just say: "I pay the same fees as you do, I should get the same access as you"
In the end, cmarin is right. That doesn't mean I agree with him. It doesn't mean that I agree with Comcast.
Just to be PERFECTLY CLEAR... I think I'm right on this, but I don't agree with it either. I wish it was more open and that these stupid restrictions weren't in place. My grandfather is an "old school" attorney and judge and taught me early on to look at things from a legal point of view. With this very strict view, we all have to agree that the ToS rules.
Those who say that their ToS didn't prohibit this when they signed up have no argument either. The ToS can change at any time and you can agree or not with it. If you don't, you can opt out and vote with your wallet. Every time the ToS has been ammended, I've gotten a copy of the changes as an insert in my monthly bill, so I can't claim ignorance.
In the end, we're dealing with a giant corporation and they have enough lawyers on staff to make sure they are well protected. If we want to play ball in their court, we've got to do it using their racquets, net, and rules. Do I like it? HELL NO. Do I accept it as it is my only alternative? Regrettably so. | |
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Atlanta, GA | said by cmarin:In the end, we're dealing with a giant corporation and they have enough lawyers on staff to make sure they are well protected. If we want to play ball in their court, we've got to do it using their racquets, net, and rules. Do I like it? HELL NO. Do I accept it as it is my only alternative? Regrettably so. And in the meantime I have no guilt when I "screw" them with any means I have available because they sure don't mind "screwing" their customers whenever they see fit. Why should I show any loyalty or respect to them when they have none for me? | |
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