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Quake110
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join:2003-12-20
Ottawa, ON

reply to jfmezei

Re: From the ennemy's mouth: P2P no longer largest bandwidth use

Hah, now they'll have to throttle everything, HTTP, FTP, P2P, UDP, VoIP... why not just return to dial-up?

The ISPs must realize it's only going to get worse and they'll need to upgrade their network to substain the bandwidth demand that that will only continue to rise.

jfmezei
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join:2007-01-03
Pointe-Claire, QC
kudos:22
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·ELECTRONICBOX

To confirm your worse fears read this 2 page document:
»www.ellacoya.com/products/IPServ···stem.pdf

Network definable applictaion signatures located anywhere in packet.

Can detect a P2P application operating on any port, even in HTTP on port 80.

CAN DO PER_USER AND PER APPLICATION ACCOUNTING
(aka: Bell can detect which customers of a competitive ISP use VOIP and how much they use it).

SKYPE is listed as some of the default protocols that are "managed". (whether it is given higher priority or reduced it not mentioned).

From a Bell Canada point of view, this is a dream machine.
From our point of view, it is our worse nighmare.

There are now definite privacy issues as well since Bell can collect private data on competitor's customers.



Arbalister

join:2007-11-24
St Catharines, ON

reply to Quake110

said by Quake110:

The ISPs must realize it's only going to get worse and they'll need to upgrade their network to substain the bandwidth demand that that will only continue to rise.
Just a point on terminology, that Id really like to see change. Don't refer to ISP's doing this throttling. Bell Nexxia, that's doing the throttling, isn't an ISP. They're an infrastructure provider. Nothing more then that. For the most part - some 99.9%, the ISPs aren't throttling and *are* investing in constant upgrades to their networks. The Exception, of course, being Sympatico. Of course, I hesitate to call a company that was created for no other purpose then to infringe on the business of Bell's contracted ISP customers an ISP.

Tikker_LoS

join:2004-04-29
Regina, SK

reply to Quake110

said by Quake110:

The ISPs must realize it's only going to get worse and they'll need to upgrade their network to substain the bandwidth demand that that will only continue to rise.
to be fair, this mostly has nothing to do with availablitiy of bandwidth, but rather the cost of peering agreements

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