 jvmorrisI Am The Man Who Was Not There.Premium,MVM join:2001-04-03 Reston, VA 1 edit | reply to wonko3fc
Re: Does England Really Suck more than America? said by wonko3fc:. . . Indeed, having spent what feels like a lifetime on and off the clutch in the daily commute, my personal bliss moment came when the manual transmission was replaced with an automatic one - I tell ya, there is no going back now.... Ahhhh, the deeper nuances of English written communications! But again, this is really a cultural difference between the US and the UK. After all, most US commuters are the only occupants of their vehicle during the daily commute, so there's much less opportunity for clutching -- if you catch my meaning, if you get my drift. 
Addendum: Unfortunately, I can no longer recall whether "If you catch my meaning, if you get my drift ..." comes from Beyond the Fringe, a most definitely English group or Firesign Theater, a most definitely American group of satirists. The two groups' performances are now so deeply interwoven into my psyche that it's impossible for me to separate them. . . . Why, I suppose I'll just have to listen to the original recordings again! (And, while I'm at it, I think I might as well go ahead and listen once again to the complete audio transcripts of "The Goons Show", which John2g so graciously provided lo those many years ago. And thank you for that, John.) -- Regards, Joseph V. Morris |
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 wonko3fcVerbum sat sapienti join:2001-06-02 UK | I wasn't aware that there was any evidence of original humor originating from the USA given the tightly constrained confines within what passes for 'satire' and the comprehensive absence of Irony.
NB: Watch Tzale come back at me now and prove me right |
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 jvmorrisI Am The Man Who Was Not There.Premium,MVM join:2001-04-03 Reston, VA | Oh, sir! Now 'elf' is surely some sort of elf, but 'safely', I'm fairly certain must be some sort of troll. 
After only six weeks' absence, I can't recall his name (I really hate that), but you've got at least one satirist in one of the major daily rags who also draws. Still, I've never seen the representation of elf and safely that I keep hoping for.
Still, you have a point here. With the exception of the Daily Show (Jon Stewart), the Colbert Report, and the occasional zinger from Olbermann on Countdown, we're long past the heyday of satire and irony here in the US (too complex for most of us these days, I suspect). We've got no new Lenny Bruce, Mort Sahl, Tim Lehrer and TW3 is, alas, long gone. More's the pity. I think George Carlin tries, but he's getting on a bit these days. The snappy, clever dialog from films of the 30s and 40s is also long gone. Christ, (pardon my French), we don't even have a Pubmaster!  -- Regards, Joseph V. Morris |
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 wonko3fcVerbum sat sapienti join:2001-06-02 UK 1 edit | "Elf & Safely" very good like "Darby & Joan" no doubt?
Oh Wikipedia is busy off the back of these threads isn't it? Bung in another couple of Blades Dave, DSLReports is active again....
Addendum: I just realised Blades are a bit old fasioned these days...Esp for this forum... Dave! Scrub the blades, spin up a couple of additional VM's mate! |
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 jvmorrisI Am The Man Who Was Not There.Premium,MVM join:2001-04-03 Reston, VA | Oh, quit pushing me, willya? 
The only reason I understood nemo's reference to 'Cockney rhyming slang' was due to a Dick Francis novel that I must have first read about 20 years ago! (I tend to re-read them fairly often, along with Arthur Conan Doyle, Raymond Chandler, and Dashiel Hammett.)
The only way I'll ever pick up on most of this stuff is if the Home Office gets off my butt and lets me visit my wife in England regularly with no hassle (something that does not appear to currently be on their agenda, as long as they can collect some more revenues for allowing me this 'privilege'.) -- Regards, Joseph V. Morris |
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| reply to wonko3fc said by wonko3fc:I wasn't aware that there was any evidence of original humor originating from the USA given the tightly constrained confines within what passes for 'satire' and the comprehensive absence of Irony. I believe there are federal laws about that. As soon as an American utters something which might be construed as witty, he is required to follow it up with "ha, ha, only kidding", thus rendering the joke inert and harmless. |
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 | said by dave:said by wonko3fc:I wasn't aware that there was any evidence of original humor originating from the USA given the tightly constrained confines within what passes for 'satire' and the comprehensive absence of Irony. I believe there are federal laws about that. As soon as an American utters something which might be construed as witty, he is required to follow it up with "ha, ha, only kidding", thus rendering the joke inert and harmless. »www.bobdylan.com/songs/lenny.html |
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 wonko3fcVerbum sat sapienti join:2001-06-02 UK | reply to dave Too funny! Another stunning example of thee land of the free...
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 jvmorrisI Am The Man Who Was Not There.Premium,MVM join:2001-04-03 Reston, VA | reply to dave If I may correct you, dave, it's actually an executive order signed by the current President after talking to God one night. The order was written by Alberto Gonzales and incorporated several refinements suggested by Vice-President Cheney.
Yes, it's true that there is an amazing similarity in God's voice and that of the Vice President but that simply explains why the President values everything said by the V. P.
Ha, ha . . . only kidding. -- Regards, Joseph V. Morris |
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 John2gQui Tacet ConsentitPremium join:2001-08-10 England | Laura Bush: "We have the weekend free darling, what would you like to do?" George Bush: "I'm not sure. Let's think..." Laura Bush: "No, let's do something that you can do too." -- Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. |
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 jvmorrisI Am The Man Who Was Not There.Premium,MVM join:2001-04-03 Reston, VA 1 edit | Or, as my older brother was fond of saying, "It's all in the wrist!" Not being particularly fond of tennis in the first place, I never did grasp his point. (As it were and so to speak.) -- Regards, Joseph V. Morris |
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 wonko3fcVerbum sat sapienti join:2001-06-02 UK | said by jvmorris:I never did grasp his point. (As it were and so to speak.)
That must have been to much relief all round then?  |
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 jvmorrisI Am The Man Who Was Not There.Premium,MVM join:2001-04-03 Reston, VA | Well, to be perfectly frank, . . .
(Don't you hate that phrase? And just who is Perfectly Frank anyway? I mean, really . . . Okay, I've got Freeborn John down now, but Perfectly Frank, I dunno.)
At any rate, I only feel able to comment on your query for myself.
Yes.  -- Regards, Joseph V. Morris |
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