 SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19 | [FYI] Pshop Express
now free. |
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  tmpchaos Beer bacon benedictine Premium,Mod join:2000-04-28 Hoboken, NJ clubs:    | »Free Photoshop on the Web |
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  HotRodFoto Premium join:2003-04-19 Denver, CO
| reply to SilverSurfer STAY AWAY!!!! »forums.dpreview.com/forums/readf···27333744 Unless u want to let Adobe sell, reuse, publish, redistribute your images! -- Capturing the images of Colorado »jdebordphoto.com |
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  Gemologist Premium join:2001-11-15 USA clubs: 
| Nice catch!!! Yest another Company suckering folks into giving them their images for trinkets. Very very pathetic on Adobe's part!!! To think I was going to buy LR and CS3, I think I will refrain for now. CS2 will hold me for a whole, maybe permanently if they keep this garbage up! Guess they needed more stock pictures for their Adobe Stock thing to sell Companies and such. Wow, geeessshhh, couldn't do it the right way and just pay the photogs for their hard work... nah.. no way... easier to steal it from the unknowing masses who will flock to use something free, lol. No wonder this Countries' economy is going in the sh*tter so quickly!  -- Images are Copyrighted and use is NOT permitted. |
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  No_Strings Premium,Mod join:2001-11-22 The OC | reply to HotRodFoto The dpreview forum link shows quite a diverse set of opinions on just how far Adobe can go. Anyone here care to opine on the terms? |
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  X Man Sober Premium join:2005-09-05 USA
| It's pretty clear. They can & will do whatever they'd like with the images, and there's nothing you can do about it. said by El Diablo aka: Adobe :
8. Use of Your Content.
1. Adobe does not claim ownership of Your Content. However, with respect to Your Content that you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Services, you grant Adobe a worldwide, royalty-free, nonexclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, and fully sublicensable license to use, distribute, derive revenue or other remuneration from, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform and publicly display such Content (in whole or in part) and to incorporate such Content into other Materials or works in any format or medium now known or later developed. You didn't think they were offering up this "free" service out of the goodness of their hearts, did you?
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  No_Strings Premium,Mod join:2001-11-22 The OC
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| I get that part, but (and again, I'm only referencing the dpreview forum links - I have no idea if their posters are as intelligent and clued in as here ... how could they be? ). What I'm hearing is conflicted between:
1. Download and use this cool, free stuff and we own your soul in perpetuity.
2. Post an image to our site and we can use ut as we see fit.
Neither or either may be acceptable to some folks and I'm in no way trying to promote it. Just trying to grasp the scope.
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  MrBradTX
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| However, with respect to Your Content that you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Services, My admittedly amateur reading of this suggests that if you upload images to a public album hosted by Adobe, that public means public.
It's less clear whether using PSExpress to manipulate an image constitutes submitting to a publicly accessible area. |
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  X Man Sober Premium join:2005-09-05 USA
| reply to No_Strings said by No_Strings :I get that part, but (and again, I'm only referencing the dpreview forum links - I have no idea if their posters are as intelligent and clued in as here ... how could they be?  ). What I'm hearing is conflicted between: 1. Download and use this cool, free stuff and we own your soul in perpetuity. 2. Post an image to our site and we can use ut as we see fit. Neither or either may be acceptable to some folks and I'm in no way trying to promote it. Just trying to grasp the scope. Thanks. It really makes no difference. The above quote from their TOS are 100% un-acceptable.The "scope" is all encompassing to content that's uploaded to "publicly accessible" areas of Adobe's site or sites. Forever. Period.
You up-load to edit. This is all web-based. That's the "cool" part. 
Adobe has already caught hell for this story and claim they are working with their legal team to modify the TOS to make them more acceptable.
Regards, Mike |
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  No_Strings Premium,Mod join:2001-11-22 The OC | Got it, thanks.
I haven't been considered cool since 1974, and even then there was some debate. |
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  Gemologist Premium join:2001-11-15 USA clubs: 
| reply to SilverSurfer said by Adobe :
Statement for Terms of Service Issues: We've heard your concerns about the terms of service for Photoshop Express beta. We reviewed the terms in context of your comments - and we agree that it currently implies things we would never do with the content. Therefore, our legal team is making it a priority to post revised terms that are more appropriate for Photoshop Express users. We will alert you once we have posted new terms.
Thank you for your feedback on Photoshop Express beta and we appreciate your input.
-Adobe Photoshop Express Team
-- Images are Copyrighted and use is NOT permitted. |
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  Jason Levine Premium join:2001-07-13 USA | reply to SilverSurfer Thanks for pointing that out. I showed it to my wife and she's already alerted some of her friends who were telling other people about it. |
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