matradley
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Ontario
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to Guspaz
Re: Is Business DSL throttled?
said by Guspaz  :Bell's business DSL is throttled. Only their static IP services (and presumably their RADSL service) isn't throttled. In that case, I will specify that our NEXXIA connections have static IPs.  |
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Inssomniak
Premium
join:2005-04-06
Cayuga, ON
| reply to DarkStar33
Any word on HSA ADSL links?
I would think that they are not throttling these? As they are not GAS DSL lines, but private links directly to 151 Front St.
I really dont want to replace my DSL lines with ADSL ones, but if thats what it takes.... |
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DarkStar33
join:2008-03-27
Toronto, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
1 edit | reply to excaliber
Bell's Business DSL has to be throttled or else it becomes anti-competitive because that prevents 3rd party ISPs from offering the same business class services.
This is garnering allot of support and the 3rd party ISPs are not going to lie down and let this happen.
It is literally do or die for some of them.
If you think Bell is going to tell anyone they are wrong, the 3rd party ISPs didn't even know until they confronted them and Bell admitted it the next day. |
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excaliber
join:2007-04-18
Laval, QC
1 edit | reply to Guspaz
Actually they are in BC, so it might have something to do with the quality of what they were smoking. Good think it's just our backup connection and our main connection is a 10 meg fiber connection split between 3 people and a couple of servers |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
·Colbanet
| reply to excaliber
In other news, Excaliber's business DSL provider recently announced that they were moving their head office out of a cave in northern Quebec to a regular office in Montreal. When asked why they were moving, the company was quoted as saying "The high humidity environment of the natural locale was causing condensation issues with telecommunication equipment. Plus, nobody would run fibre up there." |
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excaliber
join:2007-04-18
Laval, QC
| reply to markontario
I just asked our business DSL provider for confirmation and this was the first time they heard about Bell throttling wholesalers. The people I spoke to insisted that Bell would inform them of such a big change  I'll see what kind of answer I get from my email to , hopefully, higher ups. |
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Name
@teksavvy.com | reply to Guspaz
Aren't non-PPPoE customers handled over a different Bell internal network? In this case, wouldn't Bell have to know who's on a non-PPPoE static IP connection? |
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nanook
Premium,MVM
join:2007-12-02
·Bell Sympatico
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to Guspaz
said by Guspaz :Bell only knows which of their own customers have static IPs. Then at the very least Bell should exclude from throttling those IPs that their 3rd-party ISPs designate as "business" and "static." |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
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join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC | reply to markontario
I should clarify that Bell only knows which of their own customers have static IPs. |
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nanook
Premium,MVM
join:2007-12-02
·Bell Sympatico
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to Guspaz
said by Guspaz :I have official word from Deadpool on it; business DSL from Bell will be throttled, only static IP businses service will not be. said by Guspaz :All TekSavvy business lines are likely throttled, as Bell has no way of knowing if you have a static IP or not. Then Bell's across-the-board throttling is anti-competitive. While this may only impact a small number of TSI's customer base, they should refer this to federal regulators as well as to their own counsel for legal action. |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
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join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC | reply to cacruden
All TekSavvy business lines are likely throttled, as Bell has no way of knowing if you have a static IP or not. |
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cacruden
join:2008-03-18
Toronto, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to Guspaz
said by Guspaz :I have official word from Deadpool on it; business DSL from Bell will be throttled, only static IP businses service will not be. Does that mean that if I get a business dsl line with a static ip from Teksavvy (around $65 total I think) - that I won't be throttled?
Also - do they determine whether to throttle or not based on assignment of static IP? If so, then just get a Residential one with a static ip.... I have not tested mine yet. |
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Name
@teksavvy.com
| reply to Inssomniak
@Inssomniak:
I'm trying to find a definitive answer to this as well. I haven't noticed any throttling at any of my 3 business DSL lines, or my ADSL line (but I do live in the sticks), any throttling on these lines is going to be devastating for me, probably put me out of business or require expensive Ethernet or fiber installations that are out of bell's control. Get in touch with the CBC producer[1] who's looking for interviewees. This is the kind of story that needs to get out there to make an impact on the politicians.
"Some small business owners are worried tonight about being driven into bankruptcy by Bell Canada...."
Write the feds, too, if you haven't already.
[1] »CBC TV request for people to talk on camera about this issue |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
·Colbanet
| reply to LiQuiD
I don't know, but the following Bell packages have static IPs:
Business Internet High Speed Ultra ($99.95/mth)
Business Internet Optimax ($116.95/mth)
Business Internet Dedicated (varies)
Some of the access types for that third one are DSL (higher ones are copper/fibre), those may be non-PPPoE. |
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LiQuiD
BSD geek
Premium
join:2002-08-08
Anjou, QC | reply to Guspaz
does HSA ADSL (non-pppoe) fall under "static IP business service"?
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Guspaz
Guspaz
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join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC | reply to Inssomniak
I have official word from Deadpool on it; business DSL from Bell will be throttled, only static IP businses service will not be. |
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Inssomniak
Premium
join:2005-04-06
Cayuga, ON
| reply to Guspaz
I'm trying to find a definitive answer to this as well. I haven't noticed any throttling at any of my 3 business DSL lines, or my ADSL line (but I do live in the sticks), any throttling on these lines is going to be devastating for me, probably put me out of business or require expensive Ethernet or fiber installations that are out of bell's control. |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC | reply to markontario
Bell's business DSL is throttled. Only their static IP services (and presumably their RADSL service) isn't throttled. |
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twizlar
I dont think so.
Premium
join:2003-12-24
Brantford, ON | reply to markontario
3 TSI Business accounts here, spread out no throttling on any of them.
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matradley
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Ontario | reply to markontario
I can definitely vouch that Bell NEXXIA accounts are not throttled. We have two NEXXIA accounts and we are able to download BTs during peak hours at full speed. |
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