Jean_22
join:2005-08-27
Quebec, QC | reply to shawnb6
Re: CBC TV request for people to talk on camera about this issue
Since also talking about the cap, you might also want to add Videotron  |
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chrish
join:2007-02-19
Ottawa, ON | reply to shawnb6
looks like a new article is running on the national post site also:
»www.nationalpost.com/news/story.···d=407117 |
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sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
H0H 0H0 | reply to padenom
Note in that article, Bell's Lazlo says there hasn't been a backlash! Looks like his head's been hiding under the covers to avoid seeing the lightning flashes! |
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matradley
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Ontario
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
| said by sbrook  :Note in that article, Bell's Lazlo says there hasn't been a backlash! Looks like his head's been hiding under the covers to avoid seeing the lightning flashes! I read that - I was wondering what rock he is hiding under! lol |
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mazhurg
Premium
join:2004-05-02
Portage La Prairie, MB | Can't from here, but need to find that Iraqi speaker pict from the war...
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Candoo3
join:2005-01-24
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to sbrook
Maybe his head isn't under the covers.  |
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Scott Allison
@teksavvy.com
| reply to shawnb6
@a1_Andy
you have to in canada before taping anyone alert them that you are doing I suspect you think that because they said they are taping me or could be for quality purposes that means i have a legal right to just start taping them, which it does not.
Ive checked into things and unless someone wants to guarantee paying a fine regarding me and or guarantee legal expenses im not outing th tapes, i can tell you as a person what i went through but there is in them also my own personal data on those as well. and i have to say it makes me sick the to think that people less strong in the mind would and could get bothered like this. |
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iconfat
join:2005-04-06
Toronto
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said by sbrook :Note in that article, Bell's Lazlo says there hasn't been a backlash! Looks like his head's been hiding under the covers to avoid seeing the lightning flashes! I think he would make a great politician.
Btw, I didnt want to post this but he is on facebook with an open profile.
His latest status is "Jason Laszlo
is realizing how little seperates most journalists from lemmings."
Loser. |
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LiQuiD
BSD geek
Premium
join:2002-08-08
Anjou, QC | Wow, I would totally direct those reporters to that. I bet they'd sympathize alot less with him and who he is representing
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Windows is the virus. Linux is the vaccine, FreeBSD is the CURE |
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iconfat
join:2005-04-06
Toronto
| reply to shawnb6
And before that...
Jason is throttle-icious. 4:34pm
Jason is throttle-ishus. 4:32pm
Good spelling Jason. Obviously he thinks this is a game.
I guess he doesnt get that this is my money and my internet experience he is tampering with.
I don't want to give any money to the company that hires him. |
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NeTwOrKDawg
Networking is a lifestyle
join:2005-04-25
Brantford, ON | reply to shawnb6
Wow looks like Jason has changed his profile.. someone must have alerted the goof. |
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eots
join:2003-02-04 | reply to Scott Allison
Actually in Canada it's only required that one of the parties involved in the conversation be aware it's being taped. If you are doing the taping and are also involved in the conversation then no one else needs to be informed. |
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Jean_22
join:2005-08-27
Quebec, QC | Yes that's true. |
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chronoss2008
Premium
join:2008-03-29
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to shawnb6
Re: note true
not true
in order to use a phone conversation you need to make hte party that you are taping aware that you are taping the conversation otherwise it is against the privacy act and someother laws, thats why at the beginning of bells automated crap they state that the call may be monitored ( taped ) for quality purposes ( that also means that other then quality it cant be used for anyhting else )
it does not mean i can just say Scott ( myself) im taping and not tell them.
Thats against the law and the tapes are in effect not admissible in court unless its the tapes in question that are being the reason your in court. Which would prolly have most of you going woa if they ever are legally allows to be heard, be sad if my computer gets hacked wouldn't it. |
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eots
join:2003-02-04
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| Sorry to burst your bubble but you're wrong. Canadian law allows for only one of the parties involved in the conversation to be aware of the taping.
We had this very issue arise at work a few years ago where a client recorded calls to staff and posted them on the Internet and there was absolutely NOTHING that could be done about it because it was perfectly legal. I assure you the lawyers were involved but as no law was violated there was no action taken. |
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homeplanit
Premium
join:2002-11-06
Toronto, ON
| reply to shawnb6
Re: CBC TV request for people to talk on camera about this issue
Hi all,
Yesterday I thought I'd install World of Warcraft - an extremely popular online multiplayer game - on a second PC so a visiting friend and I could play at the same time. After 30 minutes of loading discs the game starts and first has to download a patch. It uses the most efficient techology for distributing large patches - BitTorrent! So a 923MB download begins ... estimated time remaining: 12 HOURS!
I had a fairly poor DSL line at 1500/500kbps, which a Bell tech graciously improved to 4000/500 just minutes ago. I watched the download speed get limited to 30kbps just after starting (around 4pm) and then jump back to 100kbps+ after 2am. So to install this legitemate game took about 12 hours due to the throttling, instead of perhaps one or two hours depending on my connection.
And during that time I could not play the game on the other PC due to server disconnections every couple minute - something that rarely happened before. Even though the download was using a fraction of available bandwidth, I suspect the traffic shaping was interfering with the game communications.
I'm a moderate bandwidth user, but I see other ways this impacts me. I use VOIP which seems to suffer when traffic shaping occurs. And I plan to establish a VPN with my parents when I get them on TekSavvy DSL so I can remotely assist them with their new PC. VPN traffic is a target of traffic shaping as well.
Why are our historic "leaders" of communications technology working so hard to limit rather than enable new and exciting applications? Greed, perhaps? |
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ultracat
join:2008-01-30
Toronto, ON
·TELUS
·Bell Sympatico
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to NeTwOrKDawg
said by NeTwOrKDawg :Wow looks like Jason has changed his profile.. someone must have alerted the goof. Hilarious! So, if there's no backlash then why would he have to change his Facebook settings? There's no backlash right? So there's no more people than normal looking at his profile, sending him messages of disapproval, etc. No backlash right? Whatever, you liar! What I like about liars (especially professional ones) is that once the light is shined on them little things begin to crack and almost always the truth comes out given enough attention. |
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ultracat
join:2008-01-30
Toronto, ON | My mistake, his profile is *still* public. Please go to facebook and post him a Wall message telling him what you think of Bell's actions. He believes there's no backlash, well lets show him there is. |
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Bellundo
@teksavvy.com
| reply to shawnb6
Bell has taken it upon themselves to try to create an illusion an imaginary facade. Bandwidth prices are the lowest they've ever been and and still going sharply lower. At the same time over the year the Canadian dollar has seen a huge run-up vis-a-vis the US dollar. All of this means sharply higher profits for bell. Bell has in turn not used any of this money for what it's intended for... upgrading their networks because in case they don't know it already the population of Canada is increasing and internet use will probably increase well at least in other parts of the world where it's run properly. Bell should be fined to nines like Comcast is. Rogers should be shutdown completely. Put another way if rogers existed in America they'd be shutdown and fined and Ted wouldn't be able to startup any companies under different names. |
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SK
@teksavvy.com
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I've just switched from bell to teksavvy after being with bell for 4 years, and although the final reason for leaving was the cap in speeds, its the whole companies policy regarding their service thats all wrong.
You sign a contract (a verbal confirmation) for a service which for me was up to 6 mbit of download speed unlimited and 2 months later they start capping the speeds without any real notice.
When I decided to leave and question all these changes to my contract, bells response is read the contract, they offer speeds UP TO 6 mbit, well why the hell would I pay $65 a month for speeds of 1 mbit and lower (cap speed for me was 30 kb/s)?? and why not tell me the cap was taking effect while I was signing up.
Some of the people I spoke with had no idea what I was talking about regarding speed caps, OR were they just playing ignorant about the whole situation ?
After dealing with the slow speeds for 1 month, I had to leave Bell, so when I called to cancel, they said I was in a contract and it was cost me $100.00 to leave, SO!! they can change the terms of the contract without notification and and offer me a choice to opt out of the contract, and when I find out about the changes, I have to PAY to leave ? because THEY changed the contract ? where is the logic in that, if they would have just said, yes there are changes to the service after signing up, if you want to leave, no penalty and goodbye, but this didn't happen and they gave me a hard time, always telling me to refer to the online contract. I said I'm still leaving, charge me the 100.00 if you want, it will be the best 100 spent in my life...
in the end, I did get another call from the business office and I told him the whole story, he tried to get me to stay, I still refused and he reversed any charges on my account.
So my whole issue here is not what they did with the service, its this contract that they are allowed to amend without giving the user an email telling of the changes and giving the user a chance to leave with any penalty.
and when I say sending an email, I DON'T MEAN a monthly bulleting with a bunch of other promotion which I have filtered as spam, I mean a real email OR snail mail to me that I can respond to within a reasonable time.
In the end, I think bell just wants anyone who downloads to leave and all those who just browse the internet to pay for the service they hardly use.
I'm not a heavy downloader compared to others, but when I want to download, I want the speeds that I was promised, not this lame excuse "up to" speeds.
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