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No_Strings
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reply to HotRodFoto

Re: [FYI] Pshop Express

The dpreview forum link shows quite a diverse set of opinions on just how far Adobe can go. Anyone here care to opine on the terms?


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It's pretty clear. They can & will do whatever they'd like with the images, and there's nothing you can do about it.

said by El Diablo aka: Adobe :

8. Use of Your Content.

1. Adobe does not claim ownership of Your Content. However, with respect to Your Content that you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Services, you grant Adobe a worldwide, royalty-free, nonexclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, and fully sublicensable license to use, distribute, derive revenue or other remuneration from, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform and publicly display such Content (in whole or in part) and to incorporate such Content into other Materials or works in any format or medium now known or later developed.
You didn't think they were offering up this "free" service out of the goodness of their hearts, did you?

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I get that part, but (and again, I'm only referencing the dpreview forum links - I have no idea if their posters are as intelligent and clued in as here ... how could they be? ). What I'm hearing is conflicted between:

1. Download and use this cool, free stuff and we own your soul in perpetuity.

2. Post an image to our site and we can use ut as we see fit.

Neither or either may be acceptable to some folks and I'm in no way trying to promote it. Just trying to grasp the scope.

Thanks.



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However, with respect to Your Content that you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Services,
My admittedly amateur reading of this suggests that if you upload images to a public album hosted by Adobe, that public means public.

It's less clear whether using PSExpress to manipulate an image constitutes submitting to a publicly accessible area.


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said by No_Strings:

I get that part, but (and again, I'm only referencing the dpreview forum links - I have no idea if their posters are as intelligent and clued in as here ... how could they be? ). What I'm hearing is conflicted between:

1. Download and use this cool, free stuff and we own your soul in perpetuity.

2. Post an image to our site and we can use ut as we see fit.

Neither or either may be acceptable to some folks and I'm in no way trying to promote it. Just trying to grasp the scope.

Thanks.
It really makes no difference. The above quote from their TOS are 100% un-acceptable.The "scope" is all encompassing to content that's uploaded to "publicly accessible" areas of Adobe's site or sites. Forever. Period.

You up-load to edit. This is all web-based. That's the "cool" part.

Adobe has already caught hell for this story and claim they are working with their legal team to modify the TOS to make them more acceptable.

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Mike


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Got it, thanks.

I haven't been considered cool since 1974, and even then there was some debate.


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