 BF69
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| reply to prestonlewis Re: What % of File-sharing is Legal?
said by prestonlewis :said by supergirl :said by Alphy :Where did you read that it was 1%? Please link me to that I believe it was in the NY Times a few years ago. I've went to Torrent sites. All I saw was illegal stuff. So, I bet the 99% of file-sharing is illegal is probably correct. No, no, no. You got it backwards. The NYT said only 1% was illegal. I recently visited a torrent site and everything I saw was legal. I'm sure 99% of file-sharing is legal is probably correct. Opinions. You can warp 'em any way you want! Are you high? You probably think download a copy of your favorite movie or TV show via torrent is legal don't you? |
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 jp10558 Premium join:2005-06-24 Willseyville, NY
| Movie, no. TV Show? Probably not legal, but much harder IMO to defend being illegial.
I can tape a TV show to VHS (and edit out commercials) and watch it later. That's legal. I can take that tape to a different location and watch it, and it's legal. I'm pretty sure most people would also think it's reasonable for me to give that tape to a friend and that would still be legal.
But if I download that show after it airs from a torrent (at a reduced quality if it's a 350MB XviD file) - that's illegial. This gets back to this color of the bits essay - it's kind of retarded IMO. -- Opera 9.23(Build 8808); Windows XP Pro SP2;Athlon 64 X2 4600+; 2.5GB PC3200 DDR; 1M/128k DSL; NOD32(Version 2.5.25); Outpost Pro 3;Proxomitron 4.5j Grypen 5/23/07(Opera mod),GPG ID:0x0A1C6EE3 |
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  hopeflicker Capitalism breeds greed Premium join:2003-04-03 Long Beach, CA
| reply to BF69 said by BF69 :You probably think download a copy of your favorite movie or TV show via torrent is legal don't you? I find it equivalent to recording it to DVR or Tape.
My isp/tv provider is Verizon. Why should it matter if the ones and zeros are sent to my DVR or computer?  -- Religion does three things quite effectively: Divides people, Controls people, Deludes people. |
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  Edge1 Workin' ta Live
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| said by hopeflicker :said by BF69 :You probably think download a copy of your favorite movie or TV show via torrent is legal don't you? I find it equivalent to recording it to DVR or Tape. My isp/tv provider is Verizon. Why should it matter if the ones and zeros are sent to my DVR or computer? I'd just like to point out that this is quality work (the graphic).
Actually, the article mentions "clogged up" pipes. Are there really any clogged up pipes? I mean, I don't have any problems consistently getting the full speed I paid for (DSL).
And I'm glad the article pointed out the loss of customers potential. Really, a lot of customers paying for that super-fast speed may opt down to the lowest tier or switch ISPs completely. Not a good business move except for, perhaps, the RIAA/MPAA. And that's truly debatable as well. |
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  hopeflicker Capitalism breeds greed Premium join:2003-04-03 Long Beach, CA
| said by Edge1 :said by hopeflicker :said by BF69 :You probably think download a copy of your favorite movie or TV show via torrent is legal don't you? I find it equivalent to recording it to DVR or Tape. My isp/tv provider is Verizon. Why should it matter if the ones and zeros are sent to my DVR or computer? I'd just like to point out that this is quality work  (the graphic). Bet you didnt know i was a full time artist by day, did ya  -- Religion does three things quite effectively: Divides people, Controls people, Deludes people. |
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  Speedy8 Premium join:2002-08-22 Alliance, OH clubs:
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| reply to jp10558 Well, the main difference is that when you download a show via P2P, copies are being made and distributed. I'm sure if you were at home making thousands of copies of VHS tapes of shows without commercials and gave them to people it might be an issue. Personally I have no problems with people downloading TV shows, but I can see the argument vs just letting a friend borrow a tape you made or keeping it for your own use.
A more comparable analogy is recording a show yourself on your PC as a file instead of using a VHS tape. |
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