hairspring
join:2007-11-23
Oakville, ON | Great!
A licence to download whatever I want! I'll gladly pay $5 for the right to download anything I want free of prosecution. |
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punker
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Palmdale, CA
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punker
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Palmdale, CA
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said by hairspring  :A licence to download whatever I want! I'll gladly pay $5 for the right to download anything I want free of prosecution. so your willing to pay 5$ per lable? your nuts
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Nightshade
Beware the Blue Rabbit
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join:2002-05-26
Salem, OR
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While this does sound like a good idea on the surface it really is not and here's three reasons why.
The first one is not everyone downloads pirated music and movies. So, this tax is going to be paid by everyone who uses a ISP connection to benefit a few. Quite unfair if you ask me.
The second one is that this so called tax money is not going directly to the artists, it is going to the **AAs. Therefore there is going to be no guarantee that the artists will see one dime of this money.
But lastly this is not a tax. A tax is levied by the government or the people themselves to pay for services rendered by the government or the people. Last time I checked the **AAs are not a government entity. Though I am sure they would love to be. This is extortion, plain and simple.
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ReneM
join:2003-07-18
Cockeysville, MD
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Even better, you also get a license to rightfully download anything you want that was free before you bought the license. Please send me $10 for the free air you breath, in return you are allowed to use as much air as you want for the rest of your life! Deal? To counter the argument that i do not own the air you breath, neither does the RIAA own already free (as in not copyright) music. |
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MrMoody
Sittin downtown in a railway station
join:2002-09-03
Clayton, NC
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said by hairspring :I'll gladly pay $5 for the right to download anything I want free of prosecution. Me too, as long as upload is included too, but do you really think they'll let everyone do that even after they have their $20b?
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banditws6
Shrinking Time and Distance
join:2001-08-18
Naples, FL
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said by Nightshade :The second one is that this so called tax money is not going directly to the artists, it is going to the **AAs. Therefore there is going to be no guarantee that the artists will see one dime of this money. You are absolutely right, and that is my biggest problem with this proposition.
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Cabal
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join:2007-01-21
02101
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said by Nightshade :The first one is not everyone downloads pirated music and movies. So, this tax is going to be paid by all to benefit a few. Quite unfair if you ask me. They rarely are. My taxes partially fund schools and libraries I will never use, but that's not changing anytime soon.
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to hairspring
big ISPs could never be made to agree unless it was made law.
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Nightshade
Beware the Blue Rabbit
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Salem, OR
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But you did go to public school at one time right? So you used the services at one time. You pay your local fire department through taxes even though you don't expect, nor want, your house to burn down.
What I am getting at in the unfair part is that this so called "tax" is going to be imposed regardless if you ever downloaded pirated content or not anytime you pay for your ISP services.
Now that's truly unfair.
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Col Klink
join:2001-01-16
Stalag 13
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Except, of course, having an educated & literate population does benefit you directly & indirectly. Big difference between having an educated (& employed) population receiving their education from public taxes and having people download music they're too cheap to buy. Music does nothing for me at all.
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knightmb
join:2003-12-01
Franklin, TN
·Comcast
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·Speakeasy
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Let's all contact Jim Griffin and let him know how we feel. 
Right from his own website:
griffin@onehouse.com
I sure have a fun e-mail for him all waiting to go.  |
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Boogeyman
Drive it like you stole it
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join:2002-12-17
Panama City, FL
·Comcast
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I wonder if the music industry realizes that if it was suddenly legal to download and share all the music you wanted, NO ONE would pay for it. You might find a few special edition boxed sets get sold every once in a while, but why pay $8-20 for a CD that you already can legally download and burn yourself for free? (The key being legally, you can already do this illegaly, but many people dont because of thier morals).
So in essence, that $20b would suddenly become the major revenue stream while actual distrobution of a physical product would barely be worth the cost. Of course not everyone has internet or wants to spend the time to download and burn all the stuff, but I'm sure everyone knows at least one person with broadband and would be willing to get what they wanted for them... for free. |
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joako
Premium
join:2000-09-07
Gainesville, FL
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said by hairspring :A licence to download whatever I want! I'll gladly pay $5 for the right to download anything I want free of prosecution. So why didn't they offer this service directly to consumers 5 years ago?
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W7PSK
Just Me
join:2000-12-04
Everett, WA | reply to Col Klink
I wouldnt call more than 25% of what they churn out now educated |
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kadar
Who is Ron Paul?
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jtudor
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Morganton, NC
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said by punker : so your willing to pay 5$ per lable? your nuts
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fatmanskinny
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Atlanta, GA
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said by Col Klink :Music does nothing for me at all. Speak for yourself! Lol.
I remember some days when I was dating and didn't know how to set the right mood with a lady I was involved with at the time. I would put on a song from Barry White (the R&B singer) or Marvin Gaye and they would say exactly what I wanted to say. It seemed as if their lyrics would just melt the woman's clothes off. 
I had lots of lovin' because of music. Lol! Now I am married. So I have a valid reason for not getting any.
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jester121
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
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said by Nightshade :But you did go to public school at one time right? So you used the services at one time. You pay your local fire department through taxes even though you don't expect, nor want, your house to burn down. What I am getting at in the unfair part is that this so called "tax" is going to be imposed regardless if you ever downloaded pirated content or not anytime you pay for your ISP services. Now that's truly unfair. Errr.. my parents paid propery taxes while I was in school, not me. That whole child labor law thing. However, despite choosing not to bring children into this insane world, I get to pay for my neighbors' kids to get a mediocre education. How is this anything but unfair?
I have no problem paying for the fire department; I'm paying for protection that I hope I never need, just like insurance.
(Technically, around here anyhow, we're paying for firefighters and police to have pensions, which is ok with me -- if they're willing to do that job and all they want is a nice retirement fund, it's a good trade.)
What's really unfair about this crap "downloading" tax (if you're paying it isn't "piracy" any more, now is it?) is that I don't want any of the MPAA's product whether it's free or not, nor do I care about crappy RIAA music. |
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Nightshade
Beware the Blue Rabbit
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join:2002-05-26
Salem, OR
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| said by jester121 :Errr.. my parents paid propery taxes while I was in school, not me. That whole child labor law thing. However, despite choosing not to bring children into this insane world, I get to pay for my neighbors' kids to get a mediocre education. How is this anything but unfair? The implication is that your parents paid for your public education through taxes. I did not say you paid for it. Sorry for the confusion.
Okay consider the alternative then. A mediocre education is better than no education. A majority of students do not attend charter or private schools because of the cost, so the only alternative is public education. If you think society is bad now with the majority of kids with a mediocre education, imagine a society with the majority of kids having a substandard or no education at all. That for me is why I don't mind my property/income taxes going into public education, despite having no kids of my own. Even though I think public education needs to have a serious overhaul if we are going to stay competitive with the global markets.
said by jester121 :What's really unfair about this crap "downloading" tax (if you're paying it isn't "piracy" any more, now is it?) is that I don't want any of the MPAA's product whether it's free or not, nor do I care about crappy RIAA music. True that it isn't a "piracy tax" anymore now that I am paying for it. I really don't care all that much of the music of today. Which is why I could never understand the mentality of since music is crap, I am going to pirate it. Why would I want crap that I can get for free? To me, crap is crap, free or not.
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