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jjeffeory

join:2002-12-04
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reply to espaeth
Re: IMHO: BS

Wow, that quote was taken completely out of context and distorted completely.


natter

join:2000-12-18
Littleton, CO
reply to jjeffeory
"It should be treated as an inportant addition to basic services in this 21st century world."

no matter what it costs the real taxpayers...

BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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reply to keyboard5684
said by keyboard5684 See Profile :

Well, then what about rural America? Are we going to get tax money to provide ANY broadband services to places 4 miles away from any town?

Why is Lafayette any different? Ever been there? I cannot in any way see how they deserve this anymore than any other city in America.

Government money is for something enterprise cannot provide because they will make no profit. This includes roads, police stations, street lights, and other projects that simply provide no return on investment.

The case here is if someone set up broadband, they could make a profit (maybe).

This could go very bad. A long time ago when there was a war going on people cut back on things. Women went to work while men went to war. Now, we are bickering about fiber, taking money from the government, that could be spent elsewhere (maybe hurricane survival or flack jackets!).
Maybe just maybe , its time that the country is run like a business. Where profits should be kept in a reserve so we can lower tax loads or maybe help fund things good for our people.
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reply to keyboard5684
said by keyboard5684 See Profile :

Why is Lafayette any different? Ever been there? I cannot in any way see how they deserve this anymore than any other city in America.
uh, the "deserve this" because the PEOPLE vote for it and are going to pay for it. when there is market failure (in this case, private businesses and corporations failed to provide the services desired by the people of Lafayette) then what do you have against the PEOPLE creating their own solution?


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reply to Marduk
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said by needforspeed59 See Profile :

I think it is total BS that governments can compete against private enterprise no matter what the good intentions are. What's next: City of Lafayette gasoline stations? Grocery stores?
LOL, I guess we should shut down the post office since they compete with fedex and UPS
you joke, but they do believe that. every once in a while someone will post a comment and start railing against the post office and how private enterprise can do it so much better!


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reply to espaeth
Whats your point? I voted to decline to fund the development and paving of various dirt roads within my county. A majority voted to approve such a measure. So now I'm stuck paying for something the county doesnt need, along with 46% of the other voters in the county.

My point is, it is what the majority wants, so thats how it goes. Which is, last time I checked, was the way this country was supposed to run....unless we've already been taken cover by the jihadists... or the nazis or something.

Its not like it was a close vote, using your 38% number. Its what the city wants, so let them eat cake.
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RibaldJester

join:2006-10-20
Urbana, IL

reply to needforspeed59
Maybe we should privatize fire depts. You know, you can purchase fire protection for $24.99 a month, but that only covers fires that are caused by lightning and other environmental accidents. If you want complete coverage, then it's $49.99 a month, but wait, you also need.....

I think it's perfectly within their rights to setup their own network. If the corporations wouldn't meet what they wanted at the price they wanted then we should do it ourselves. Just look at all the rural electrical companies that we setup by local governments solely because the corporations didn't want to bring electricity out to the boonies (not cost effective).

tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY

reply to needforspeed59
said by needforspeed59 See Profile :

I think it is total BS that governments can compete against private enterprise no matter what the good intentions are. What's next: City of Lafayette gasoline stations? Grocery stores?
Prices have been rising for both those commodities...
I don't know about you.. but I think that'd be a good idea right about now.. since the market does nothing but allow prices to skyrocket out of control. We just might need some balance to the equation... another 5 years of stagflation, you just might be wondering why your quality of life has gone down...


adisor19

join:2004-10-11
reply to espaeth
Damn this democracy where that majority votes to decide what to do !!! It sucks when you're in the minority, eh ?

LOL

With comments like these, i wonder sometimes..

Adi


adisor19

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reply to espaeth
This is not a waste of tax payer dollars. On the contrary, the people of a town voted to use THEIR tax dollars to bring internet to their town when the evil corporation wouldn't. This, is not a bridge to nowhere, it's an improvement to their lives. I would be proud to live in such a city.

Adi


Carl
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reply to battleop
said by battleop See Profile :

The citizens in Lafayette have no other choice for broadband.
Yes, they do.

Cox cable is available, as is BellSouth/AT&T DSL service.

Both have been available since the 90's, if I'm not mistaken.

I know when I lived in Lafayette, I had Cox cable modem.
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Default_Uzer

join:2006-02-13
Springville, NY
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reply to BillRoland
Well said. But if your town built a government owned and operated gas station and offered gas for $2.50/gallon I'm sure it would be greatly appreciated and you would be out of your mind to not fill up there.

Would you want to pay for a local service and see some of the money go back into the community, such as roads, schools and things of that nature or would you rather pay more money for a slower service and kiss your cash goodbye?


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Warner Robins, GA
reply to needforspeed59
If private companies cannot or will not provide a service that people want then their governments have every right to provide them.

Travel_2002

join:2002-10-13
Lagrange, GA

reply to Default_Uzer
I just love to sit back and read comments made by people who are on the "outside" of any fiber project. Right now it's about 80% for and 20% against. Those against are either in some way close to the incumbent or just flat out negative about everything. It makes business sense from the incumbent to fight any competition. On the other hand if they had preformed like they should have in the past then these projects wouldn't be going on right now. These cable companies and telcos have operated a "cash cow" long enough. It's true that some have made improvements as far as technology is concerned, but still lack in customer service and price. They all have the option of building a fiber network but have opted not to do so. They still insist on "coax". Any fiber project being built has to offer the same channels on their lineup as the incumbent and more or the people wont subscribe to it. The internet has to be faster and the phone works better and cheaper.

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

reply to Marduk
We need to shut down the police, and replace it with subscription police, just like volunteer fire depts, where they will only try to put out the fire if your a member and have a shield on your lawn, the only thing they will do for free is rescue humans.

Public schools need to be shut down, they compete with private and charters.

We need to close libraries, they compete with Blockbusters and Barnes & Noble.

Streets need to be privatized, we can use technology to give each piece of road a microcent travel fee.

Congress needs to be run by a contractor, and a contractor should run elections. All govt branches need to be replaced by private industry. Supreme Court can now be a for profit corporation.

Military can become a contractor to auction off contracts for regiments.

We should privatize all government, it will be more efficient when all of the government is listed on the Stock Exchange and is held accountable to be profitable for stockholders.
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