iconfat
join:2005-04-06
Toronto
| Well, now I cant get my work emails...
Rocky, something has to be done now.
I just logged onto my VPN at work and I cannot use Lotus notes at all as my emails are not downloading. The replication process has slowed to such a crawl that I cannot even get any work done from home anymore.
This is completely unacceptable. |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC | What port and protocol does your work VPN use? |
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mlerner
Premium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON | reply to iconfat
hmm, it should be faster but it's usually not recommended that you use lotus notes or exchange over VPN especially if you have a big mailbox. |
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Mersault
join:2007-10-26
Toronto, ON
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to iconfat
Wouldn't one of the primary uses of a VPN be to allow secure access TO your companies Exchange server? I'll bet that more than 50% of all VPN sessions include some Exchange traffic. I use a VPN to access Exchange almost daily. My boss has something approaching a 2 gig Exchange account and uses a VPN to access it without any problem. |
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LiQuiD
BSD geek
Premium
join:2002-08-08
Anjou, QC | It's only the first download (or if you haven't downloaded in a long time) that takes a while anyway...
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note4u
@videotron.ca | reply to iconfat
Its been mentioned a few times in the sympatico forum that lotus notes doesn't function well with the bell throttle. |
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mlerner
Premium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
 ·Rogers Hi-Speed
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to Mersault
said by Mersault  :Wouldn't one of the primary uses of a VPN be to allow secure access TO your companies Exchange server? I'll bet that more than 50% of all VPN sessions include some Exchange traffic. I use a VPN to access Exchange almost daily. My boss has something approaching a 2 gig Exchange account and uses a VPN to access it without any problem. Yes however most companies provide webmail access for that. Your boss may be fine for now but if he loses the stored messages, he's going to be waiting a long time to download them all again. In ideal conditions, this may work but you need plenty of bandwidth and a stable connection on your end.
Having said all that though, Microsoft is moving towards a direct approach with Exchange 2007 which supports HTTP transport to the exchange without the VPN.
So yes, many people probably have this kind of setup but it may be troublesome, which is why it's usually not recommended. |
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Name96
join:2008-03-28
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said by iconfat :I just logged onto my VPN at work and I cannot use Lotus notes at all as my emails are not downloading. The replication process has slowed to such a crawl that I cannot even get any work done from home anymore. This is completely unacceptable. What type of VPN?
According to Bell, VPN disruption will not be a problem for business users because no business user would ever want to access their work network after hours.
Upgrading to PPPoE business DSL won't help.
Upgrading to $100/month non-PPPoE DSL *might* help but we don't know yet.
Switching to Rogers won't help as they're doing the same thing.
Basically you can't access your work VPN anymore unless their is legal or political intervention to bring Bell to heel. There is nothing Teksavvy can do about it technically and there is no other ISP you can switch to. You're screwed.
You should tell Industry Canada and the CRTC what you think about that. You should ask your company to tell IC and the CRTC what they think about it, too. |
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iconfat
join:2005-04-06
Toronto | reply to iconfat
I'll get the specifics of the VPN software and port being used. As of right now my laptop is off. |
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NeTwOrKDawg
Networking is a lifestyle
join:2005-04-25
Brantford, ON | reply to iconfat
Cisco VPN here, Lotus Notes 8.0.1, and well, suprise suprise, throttled! |
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justsometech
join:2003-05-08
h3h4h4
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to iconfat
Please let your company know so that:
1) They may have a solution for you (as other users will have this problem too)
2) SO that they can take issue with throttling as well since it is going to impact their bottom line, from an efficiency standpoint. |
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Deadpool
Go Sens Go
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-29
Canada
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to NeTwOrKDawg
said by NeTwOrKDawg :Cisco VPN here, Lotus Notes 8.0.1, and well, suprise suprise, throttled! What speeds are you getting?
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NeTwOrKDawg
Networking is a lifestyle
join:2005-04-25
Brantford, ON
1 edit | said by Deadpool :said by NeTwOrKDawg :Cisco VPN here, Lotus Notes 8.0.1, and well, suprise suprise, throttled! What speeds are you getting? Approximately 30k or so.. and I know it isn't my employers systems, since I am the Network Engineer for them and handle our entire Cisco infrastructure including our 100Mbps uplinks.
And I would like to add that if this affects any of my over 1000 users, my employer will issue a formal complaint due to lost productivity. |
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Deadpool
Go Sens Go
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-29
Canada
·Bell Sympatico
| said by NeTwOrKDawg :said by Deadpool :said by NeTwOrKDawg :Cisco VPN here, Lotus Notes 8.0.1, and well, suprise suprise, throttled! What speeds are you getting? Approximately 30k or so.. and I know it isn't my employers systems, since I am the Network Engineer for them and handle our entire Cisco infrastructure including our 100Mbps uplinks. I wasn't going to assume that either. 
I seriously suggest someone start a single thread (and tightly moderated), that includes all the problematic applications (name and version), which ports are being used and when the problem occurs.
That way Rocky and his crew can take it to Bell to investigate and resolve.
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HiVolt
Premium
join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
clubs:
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to NeTwOrKDawg
said by NeTwOrKDawg :Cisco VPN here, Lotus Notes 8.0.1, and well, suprise suprise, throttled! Bell needs to fucking burn for this. And they will, this time around enough stink has been made. Nobody gave a frig when they throttled their own guppies, *cough* i mean customers.
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Deadpool
Go Sens Go
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-29
Canada
·Bell Sympatico
| said by HiVolt :said by NeTwOrKDawg :Cisco VPN here, Lotus Notes 8.0.1, and well, suprise suprise, throttled! Bell needs to fucking burn for this. And they will, this time around enough stink has been made. Nobody gave a frig when they throttled their own guppies, *cough* i mean customers. That's unfair HiVolt. I worked my ass off trying to get problems fixed that were brought to my attention.
I reached out to dozens of people and only got about 3 or 4 responses from people (and fixed those cases). I can't help anyone who doesn't want to help themselves.
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HiVolt
Premium
join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
clubs:
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to Deadpool
said by Deadpool :That way Rocky and his crew can take it to Bell to investigate and resolve. Why should he? His company's network was having zero issues with this, now he has to assign employee resources to fix what Bell has fucked up? Is Bell going to reimburse TekSavvy for this? I highly doubt it.
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HiVolt
Premium
join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
clubs:
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to Deadpool
said by Deadpool :That's unfair HiVolt. I worked my ass off trying to get problems fixed that were brought to my attention. I reached out to dozens of people and only got about 3 or 4 responses from people (and fixed those cases). I can't help anyone who doesn't want to help themselves. Its not unfair. I realize you're a great resource and I respect you for your help. But what you dealt with was with Sympatico's own client base, and it affected nobody else. I said little when Sympatico started throttling.
This pushed many over the edge, so I apologize if I'm a little ticked off.
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Deadpool
Go Sens Go
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-29
Canada
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to HiVolt
said by HiVolt :said by Deadpool :That way Rocky and his crew can take it to Bell to investigate and resolve. Why should he? His company's network was having zero issues with this, now he has to assign employee resources to fix what Bell has fucked up? Is Bell going to reimburse TekSavvy for this? I highly doubt it. So Rocky should let the problems continue until the issue goes to court in 6 months from now? I seriously doubt that's the answer.
I'm not saying that it's the best option long term, but right now there's no reason not to.
And I can't really speak on behalf of Rocky or others within Teksavvy, but they may already be doing this as we speak (they do it for DSL repair issues, so why is this any different?).
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alec
join:2007-12-24
Ottawa, ON | reply to iconfat
Any word on Citrix SSL VPN connection speeds? |
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