Dogfather
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The government shouldn't need a warrant when somebody picks up a phone in Iraq and calls the United States
The person in the United States is still under the protection of the Constitution of the United States you dumbass.
Has anyone in this Administration actually READ the Bill of Rights? |
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netwire
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Discussing both counterfeiting and general piracy, he said that failure to protect ourselves from crime could lead to problems with both the economy and the state of public safety.
What they meant to say was;
"Discussing both counterfeiting and general piracy, he said that failure to protect our pockets from such crimes could lead to problems with our large house and car payments."
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TKJunkMail
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| Intellectual Property is a significant part of the US economy. To not enforce IP laws can have a negative effect on the whole economy. So, as you defend IP crimes, keep that in mind as you stand in the unemployment line.
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said by Dogfather 
Has anyone in this Administration actually READ the Bill of Rights?
[/BQUOTE :The real question should be. Can they even READ? |
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netwire
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said by TKJunkMail :Intellectual Property is a significant part of the US economy. To not enforce IP laws can have a negative effect on the whole economy. So, as you defend IP crimes, keep that in mind as you stand in the unemployment line. I never said that I supported IP crimes. I pay for every single song I download from iTunes tyvm. |
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dadkins
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Piracy.
First off, I have never seen any GEEK or P2P/BT user rape then use a Cutlass to kill several people and then TAKE any software/movies/music - not pirates.
Second, no theft is involved - it's copying.
At best, it is Copyright Infringement - not theft... no matter what the Music & Movie Overlords have told you.
Wait until YOU get hosed because of the policing actions make a mistake and come after you.
Now, as for the warrantless wiretapping... BULLSHIT!
What if one of your enemies rat you out and they start tapping the shit out of your phone and internet?
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major marco
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said by TKJunkMail :Intellectual Property is a significant part of the US economy. To not enforce IP laws can have a negative effect on the whole economy. So, as you defend IP crimes, keep that in mind as you stand in the unemployment line. So is the housing sector and stocks. Tell you what - let's just wholesale surveille without and kind of judicial oversight whatsoever all calls, email, snail mail, bank accounts, medical, etc. because not doing so has the potential to negatively affect the U.S. economy. Oh wait. The telcos already provide much of that data to the NSA and what they don't pick up in that capacity, the USA/Patriot/Military Commissions Act and FISA does. So we're all safe & snuggly in this country. Now why isn't the Dow at 30k? Right. Because we haven't secured the piracy sector. Well it's a good thing AG Mukasey came along. Whatever would we do without patriots like him?
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said by Dogfather : quote:
The government shouldn't need a warrant when somebody picks up a phone in Iraq and calls the United States
The person in the United States is still under the protection of the Constitution of the United States you dumbass. Has anyone in this Administration actually READ the Bill of Rights? I know it's a rhetorical question, but..
No. They have not.
What is this administration of Bush and Dick if it isn't scaring people into giving up their rights? Completely limp. |
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Zoly
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And how would they do that if someone subscribes to one on European VOIP and call elsewhere using it?
What if my VOIP company is based in let say Germany. And I call my friend in Russia and talk about different bs. I think wiretapping in this situation would be very illegal!
But if this Administration wants to listen,no problem,I can always invite them to join the party using 3-way calling, unless... they don't like 3-somes. LOL |
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lcnoble
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I can't help it this time! Did you know that scratching your butt also leads to terrorism? |
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | My ass has been determined to be a WMD; especially after eating some cold pork & beans straight from the can. |
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Zoly
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Houston, TX | reply to lcnoble
Nope, I did not. My butt is DRM protected. So I assume by scratching it I don't violate any anti-piracy law and in the end it should not lead to any terrorist actions. LOL |
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Transmaster
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said by Dogfather :My ass has been determined to be a WMD; especially after eating some cold pork & beans straight from the can. Good, read my signature below....you are doing good. 
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Sir, I must correct you.
Discussing both counterfeiting and general piracy, he said that failure to protect our pockets from such crimes could lead to problems with our large house and car payments."
You forgot to include the huge PAYOFFS and Moneys received from lobbyists for supporting said issues tooth and nail like a puppet. |
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said by Dogfather : The person in the United States is still under the protection of the Constitution of the United States you dumbass. People won't fully understand that concept until some jack-booted government agents come to their door to arrest them for something silly like posting an unpatriotic opinion on a web board. Unfortunately, at that point it will be too late. |
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Kearnstd
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Please do not waste my tax dollars fighting the "evil p2p piracy", first off spend my money fighting crimes that cause harm, you know things like gang violence and murders.
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mrchris
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What a complete joke this is! I"m glad Bushy will be gone in January. |
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ureihcim
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In his defense, just because it's a copy does not mean it does not cause any damage. This prevents the actual sale of the product. I will agree it is not stealing by technical terms but the effects are still the same.
Also think about it for a second, how many times has projects and even those involved in the military been pushed into the private sector? Plenty, so what makes you think the organization in charge of these warrantless wiretaps would be placed?
How about electronic voting, I find it BS that a device with just a few questions that its suppose to archive something somehow still fails. Who the hell is coding these machines? You got it private sector freaking BS. The BBR polls you put in threads is more stable and operates correctly than what a voting machine will do.
Oh software problems? Any programmer here can tell you that's some BS, even if all the information is in cypher text. I can't even trust the government to properly make a can opener, it's just a piece of metal cut and bent into a certain shape, but somehow they will manage to screw it up.
Also the basic IP laws have already been founded, no more laws are needed, what the private sector needs to do is find a secure method of distribution of their own content and seize all other forms of distribution. How are you stopping piracy if you still sell the unencrypted CD at FYE or Amazon.
NS bob, why you think there are like 120 used copies on sale on Amazon of just one CD?
If data is copied, then the laws are copied over as well no matter in what form that copy is where it be digital, analog, written on a mac donalds napkin, etc. No need for new laws because the current laws apply.
Tell the DOJ to keep their nose out of it, and lower the salary of congressman which somehow they don't want to approve a 2.5% increase for DoD personnel, but they get a raise whenever they wish. We could save a few million and discourage trash entering the house and get some actual people with some heart in there and do some good. |
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