TSI Gabe
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join:2007-01-03
Chatham, ON
| How much Bell's throttling affects our network and others
Notice the big "blip"? They throttle for almost 1gbps of traffic! | 
Our Traffic flows 1 week ago | 
Our Traffic flows yesterday... |
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LUF
LUF
join:2001-11-10
Roberval, QC
| Wow, thanks Gabe for those, very appreciated. That's like at least a third of what is usually used... this is quite insane.
And on that matter : We're all with you (obviously) on this one. I'm sure if you guys were to request something from us, we'd try as much as possible to help, as you've been helping us for years now. |
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wonders
join:2007-08-21
Canada | reply to TSI Gabe
Gabe, im curious. Some of us in #teksavvy feel the amount of peer2peer traffic is a bit low (before, and after). How is your graphs filter matching on p2p traffic? |
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TobiasFunke
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Toronto, ON
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March 30th, @01:33PM
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What I find interesting about those charts is that P2P is a tiny fraction of the "70-90% of all Internet traffic" that the majors like to bandy about in the press. This, despite the fact that TSI is a favourite of P2P users. |
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TSI Gabe
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the colored flow traffics are actually stacked. In other words UDP uses the most traffic, then Web, then P2P.
So there is more Web traffic on our network then P2P. Yet as you can see from the graphs, Bell does not only throttle P2P. It's affecting everything else.
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twizlar
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| said by TSI Gabe  :the colored flow traffics are actually stacked. In other words UDP uses the most traffic, then Web, then P2P. So there is more Web traffic on our network then P2P. Yet as you can see from the graphs, Bell does not only throttle P2P. It's affecting everything else. Yeah thats what amazed me, everything is pretty much being modified, hence all the traffic spikes. Scary.
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Eman
@mnsi.net | reply to TSI Gabe
look at the scale... its like 1/3rd... |
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JayMan
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Earth | reply to TSI Gabe
Way to go Gabe. Now I have a chatroom full of confused geeks. |
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Name
join:2008-03-28
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TSI needs to put out a press release on this first thing Monday.
Not only has Bell been less than honest about the percentage of P2P traffic but they've provided misleading information on what traffic is being filtered. This stuff is a PR goldmine as it demonstrates that Bell's public pronouncements can't be trusted.
If you send these graphs to the media, change the order around so P2P is at the bottom and therefore more clearly visible as a percentage. Better yet, make a separate pie chart showing what percentage was P2P a week ago and what percentage is P2P now.
What's all that undifferentiated UDP traffic, anyway?
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LiQuiD
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Anjou, QC | Yeah.. Pie charts work alot better for the layman. A very good idea.
Name, we were talking about that in #teksavvy just now. It appears that udp can be anything from snmp to streaming media |
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DarkStar33
join:2008-03-27
Toronto, ON
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Your transparency in how you do business is quite amazing, many could take a page out of your playbook called honesty.
Gotta love how all of the evil p2p traffic is eating so much bandwidth yet the graph shows it coming in as number 3. I was really surprised how little it really ate up.
Considering that many of us run frequent torrent up/downs the % of P2P traffic sure doesn't look like much, I would expect that the actual p2p traffic for Sympatico members is a fraction which reinforces the point that there was no need to do this aside from making money.
I run torrents 24/7 because my speeds suck, logically you would think if you gave people the ability to get what they want and then get out it would reduce overall traffic.
Instead of heavy download/upload for a few hours I now do moderate downloading for many weeks. |
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TheMG
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March 30th, @01:51PM
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said by Name :What's all that undifferentiated UDP traffic, anyway? My guess would be gaming that is not being detected as gaming, VoIP, and other streaming/real-time media. |
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Name
join:2008-03-28 | reply to LiQuiD
What's really amazing about this is that Bell's been able to cut web traffic in half without anyone noticing.
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TSI Gabe
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said by TheMG :said by Name :What's all that undifferentiated UDP traffic, anyway? My guess would be gaming that is not being detected as gaming, VoIP, and other streaming/real-time media. DNS uses UDP
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qweloo
join:2007-10-04
h3p 2c4 | reply to TSI Gabe
This needs to go to the media (CBC, Globe and Mail, etc)
and also to the lawyers as evidence. |
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R0CKY
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said by qweloo :This needs to go to the media (CBC, Globe and Mail, etc) and also to the lawyers as evidence. just guessing, but i'm pretty sure that's why they posted that graph here.. Things here seem to hit the media pretty damn quick as of late. |
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sMURF
join:2007-02-27
Toronto, ON | reply to TSI Gabe
So... Bell has effectively crippled your entire network? Wow, eat shit Bell. |
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Rastan
join:2007-04-25
Canada | reply to TSI Gabe
Thanks for posting these graphs. |
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LiQuiD
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said by sMURF :So... Bell has effectively crippled your entire network? Wow, eat shit Bell. I believe the full saying requires "and die" to be appended to that statement. |
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