Re: Good luck with that.. in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20256547 en Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:24:27 EDT Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:24:27 EDT Re: Good luck with that.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20530696 robertfl : »phoenixlabs.org/pg2/

need i say more?

-Rob]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20530696 Fri, 23 May 2008 18:03:44 EDT Re: Good luck with that.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20262777 Edge1 : Thanks for that interesting post. I hadn't really thought about it much, but you make a great point about snooping encrypted traffic. Legitimate transactions...I guess the internet is actually used for stuff that contributes to economies :D. Can't believe that one or two organizations can bitch whine and cry like this and get away with it, even getting ISPs like VM to bend over.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20262777 Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:06:18 EDT Re: Good luck with that.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20262167 TechieZero :
said by Piracyisnottheft :

Theft is when you steal a physical object belonging to another person while copyright infringement is when you copy IP without permission from the copyright holder. There is a huge difference between the two.
So in both cases, someone is getting something that was created or built by someone else and not paying for it. Correct?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20262167 Tue, 01 Apr 2008 06:33:28 EDT Re: Good luck with that.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20260814 BosstonesOwn : That works by being the go between and grabbing the ssl key then passing it on. Easily defeated by tunneling :). I should know , I do it daily.
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define trivial. We have Sun e20k's that I frequently use when there is low usage to try and attack ssl 128. It's not trivial. And those suckers are number crunching fiends.

Considering those boxes full loaded run easily over 4 million I would not say trivial.

Plus snooping ssl becomes a slippery slope. Actually more like a luge track. What happens if a hacker finds a way in and starts picking off bank transactions ? Or stored traffic is analyzed and a hacker finds a way in to get personal data.

You think they will get immunity ? I don't , banks don't play when it comes to big loses. TJX any one ?

Virgin Media will be raked over the coals and spit on for their pittance. I for one would love to see the people revolt and leave them floundering like AOL. Send a good solid message that the net is the next frontier and controlling a world wide frontier is not the business of the entertainment industry.
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said by cornelius785 See Profile :

i agree, with the amount of packets that pass through the ISP's network and a cracking time much larger than real time, SSL of sufficient key size is still secure. from what i've found 40-bit keys for ssl isn't that secure, but nearly all keys now are 128-bit for ssl, so good luck cracking that.
Apparently, none of you have ever seen a BlueCoat content filtering device in action....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20259624 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:15:34 EDT Re: Good luck with that.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20258807 ross :
said by TechieZero See Profile :

said by Piracyisnottheft :

Copyright infringement is not theft. Why can't you numskulls get it through your head.
OK...so what is it then?
From Dictionary.com:

# Breach or infraction, as of a law, right, or obligation; violation; transgression.
# An act of infringing.
# An act that disregards an agreement or a right.
# A crime less serious than a felony.
# A violation, as of a law, regulation, or agreement; a breach.
# An encroachment, as of a right or privilege.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20258807 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:57:06 EDT Re: Good luck with that.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20258700 TechieZero :
said by Piracyisnottheft :

Copyright infringement is not theft. Why can't you numskulls get it through your head.
OK...so what is it then?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20258700 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:36:44 EDT Re: Good luck with that.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20258042 nasadude :
said by dadkins See Profile :

Birds of a feather... got broadband?
don't forget it takes one to know one and just do it!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20258042 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:36:28 EDT Re: Good luck with that.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20257478 anon : Copyright infringement is not theft. Why can't you numskulls get it through your head.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20257478 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:03:12 EDT Re: Good luck with that.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20257305 mmainprize : I dont know about you but I and many other would not longer need high speed connection just to get e-mail and a little brosing the net.

This move could harm the internet as a whole.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20257305 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:34:09 EDT Re: Good luck with that.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20257290 mmainprize : So now the ISP are going to become hacker to find priates, ya right, give me a break. Is that not illegle also.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20257290 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:31:42 EDT Re: Good luck with that.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20257075 BabyBear :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

A rose by any name smells the same.
said by dadkins See Profile :

Birds of a feather... got broadband?
"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —President George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002 ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20257075 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:59:51 EDT Re: Good luck with that.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20257052 BabyBear :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

All you have to do is kick off a couple hundred and then publicize it like crazy. That will get all but the hardcore thieves to back off.
Yeah that has worked for the RIAA and their racketeering(lawsuits). :uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20257052 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:57:19 EDT Re: Good luck with that.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20256881 dadkins :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by nasadude See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

... That will get all but the hardcore thieves to back off.
thieves? I thought we were talking about infringement.

hard to have a proper discussion when one party uses the wrong terms.
A rose by any name smells the same.
Birds of a feather... got broadband?
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said by nasadude See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

... That will get all but the hardcore thieves to back off.
thieves? I thought we were talking about infringement.

hard to have a proper discussion when one party uses the wrong terms.
A rose by any name smells the same.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

... That will get all but the hardcore thieves to back off.
thieves? I thought we were talking about infringement.

hard to have a proper discussion when one party uses the wrong terms.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20256739 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:00:12 EDT Re: Good luck with that.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20256718 cornelius785 : i agree, with the amount of packets that pass through the ISP's network and a cracking time much larger than real time, SSL of sufficient key size is still secure. from what i've found 40-bit keys for ssl isn't that secure, but nearly all keys now are 128-bit for ssl, so good luck cracking that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20256718 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:55:50 EDT Re: Good luck with that.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20256580 TKJunkMail :
said by ke4pym See Profile :

I think it will be interesting to see how many people VirginMedia ultimately kick off their network and if there is any impact to that division's bottom line.
You don't have to kick a whole lot off the net to have an effect. All you have to do is kick off a couple hundred and then publicize it like crazy. That will get all but the hardcore thieves to back off.
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said by ke4pym See Profile :

With the right hardware, it is trival to crack SSL traffic.

Man in the middle attacks are pretty easy when you're the ISP.

I think it will be interesting to see how many people VirginMedia ultimately kick off their network and if there is any impact to that division's bottom line.
Modern encryption is not at all easy to crack. What you refer to as "Man in the middle attacks" requires a highly selective circumstance, which I do not think applies here]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20256537 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:09:56 EDT Re: Good luck with that.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20256469 ke4pym : With the right hardware, it is trival to crack SSL traffic.

Man in the middle attacks are pretty easy when you're the ISP.

I think it will be interesting to see how many people VirginMedia ultimately kick off their network and if there is any impact to that division's bottom line.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20256469 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 08:52:48 EDT Good luck with that.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20256456 Chiyo : I for one wouldn't sign up with them they don't need to be tracking me. Good luck with SSL and figuring out all that encrypted data.

Piracy has been spoken about so much what else is there to say? the UK is already going nuts with the video cameras and other stuff so why not bend to the entertainment industry?

My advice, encrypt your traffic and keep your radio volume low god forbid someone listen to your music!
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