anonomous
@comcast.net
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Re: Canadian internet is going to shit.
If it's any consolation, you internet in Canada is A LOT
faster than most people get here in the states  . Besides that, yeah it really sucks with all those caps. Why are there all those caps in Canada? |
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anonomous
@comcast.net | My mistake... YOUR internet, not you internet  |
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telcolackey
The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
Death Valley, CA | reply to anonomous
Why isn't my water bill flat fee? |
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jessegr
join:2005-03-05
Gatineau, QC | reply to anonomous
Not really. Fios and Cablevision and cox are way ahead of us. Comcast is about even tho. |
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Raptor
Not a Dumptruck
join:2001-10-21
London, ON | reply to telcolackey
It is in rural Ontario (in some places anyway). |
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Snickerdo
Premium
join:2001-02-28
Niagara Falls, ON
| reply to jessegr
said by jessegr  :Not really. Fios and Cablevision and cox are way ahead of us. Comcast is about even tho. FIOS sure, but the amount of money they're spending will come to bite them - and their customers - in the ass in a few years. Cablevision isn't any much better than what we have North of the border, as we've already got cable ISPs here with 30 and 50Mbit/s tiers, just like Cablevision.
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jjeffeory
join:2002-12-04
USA
| reply to telcolackey
said by telcolackey :Why isn't my water bill flat fee? Water and internet access are two totally different things.
One is a finite natural resource costing varying amounts of money to pump through an infrastructure. The other is data and electricity which costs minimally more no matter if 1 GB is sent or 200 GB. The power is always on and the actual costs do not match in such a way to compare to moving water.
Geesh, get a society hooked on something and then rake the through the coals! Just hilarious! |
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voyager6868
join:2003-01-29
Lynnwood, WA
 ·Bell Sympatico
| What you say is partly true, but if an ISP is maxing out their bandwidth, they have to add extra routers that cost money and overall the ISP will consume more electricity.
Basically, ISP prices should go up at the rate of inflation, and their capacities and speeds should keep pace with the current technology. That would be fair. |
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Snickerdo
Premium
join:2001-02-28
Niagara Falls, ON
| reply to Raptor
said by Raptor :It is in rural Ontario (in some places anyway). It is in a lot of places, actually. In Montreal it is part of your property taxes from what I understand. |
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hurfy
Premium
join:2002-08-06
Spokane, WA
| reply to telcolackey
Ours is certainly close
Off the top of my head:
$40 water bill is for like $4.88 worth of water used and $3 worth of sewer, etc tied to it. The rest is fixed monthly costs even for zero usage. I bet yours is not too much different.
You want internet like your water bill:
$18.50 connect fee
$2.11 enviromental impact fee
$1.44 rate equalization
$.37 paperwork for above fees
$1.12 utility tax
$1.66 sales tax (vat)
plus $1 per GB**
**plus tax (still only half the lines as our water bill but...) |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| reply to Snickerdo
I think this is a case where being a megacorporation helps- Verizon has so many other businesses (a majority stake in the most profitable wireless carrier in the US, a global data network inherited from the former MCI, a still substantially profitable copper landline network) that they can handle the hit from FiOS and still keep up their dividends enough to keep the stockholders from rioting... a smaller company couldn't do that. |
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davoice
join:2000-08-12
Saxapahaw, NC
·Comporium
| reply to telcolackey
said by telcolackey :Why isn't my water bill flat fee? Mine is... it's "free". All I pay is a real utility company - an electric coop no less - for the power to pull it out of ground and push it into my house.
And my electric utility company actually charges me less per kW when I use more power. Unlike these cap and surcharge ISPs who want to penalize people for actually using their product fully.
}Davoice |
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just me2
@comcast.net
| Actually you (or the homeowner) had to pay for the infrastructure to get the water to you. There's the pipes in the home, and the pipes out to the well, and then the well, the pump and the cost to dig down to the water and install a pipe to that water. That can easily cost in the thousands of dollars depending on how deep they have to dig.
Now, you can consider your internet connection the same when you install your cable/fiber from your residence to the cable company and you are responsible for fixing any issues that come up with it. Of course you still need to pay the cable company a fee to use their network and send data out on to the Internet but that will be a much lower cost if you take on the costs/headache of managing the connection from the cable company to your home. |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to hurfy
said by hurfy :$18.50 connect fee $2.11 enviromental impact fee $1.44 rate equalization $.37 paperwork for above fees $1.12 utility tax $1.66 sales tax (vat) plus $1 per GB** Hmmmmmm. kind of looks like the average cell phone bill!
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elwoodblues
Elwood Blues
join:2006-08-30
Toronto, ON | reply to telcolackey
Mine is |
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d25m03p
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Langley, BC
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to voyager6868
said by voyager6868 :Basically, ISP prices should go up at the rate of inflation, and their capacities and speeds should keep pace with the current technology. That would be fair. Wrong... If prices go up, they should follow the rate that my salary go up ..... Which is 0%! Every business thinks that prices can keep going up, but if salaries don't follow, then soon, no-one will be able to afford anything. The answer by businesses... Put the prices up again and again.
Who the hell runs these businesses? MBA's? No wonder North America is becoming a third world continent! |
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voyager6868
join:2003-01-29
Lynnwood, WA | Hmm. Most salaries do go up, unless you're talking about a minimum-wage or fairly low-paying job. If yours doesn't, then perhaps you should try to find a better job. |
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nebular
join:2007-07-12
Peterborough, ON | reply to telcolackey
because you live in death valley california, whereas I live on the trent severn waterway in ontario and enjoy a flat fee for my water |
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telcolackey
The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
Death Valley, CA
1 edit | dupe |
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telcolackey
The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
Death Valley, CA
| reply to nebular
said by nebular :because you live in death valley california, whereas I live on the trent severn waterway in ontario and enjoy a flat fee for my water I want to live closer to the Internet
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