telcolackey
The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
Death Valley, CA
| reply to nebular
Re: Canadian internet is going to shit.
said by nebular  :because you live in death valley california, whereas I live on the trent severn waterway in ontario and enjoy a flat fee for my water I want to live closer to the Internet
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telcolackey
The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
Death Valley, CA
1 edit | reply to nebular
dupe |
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nebular
join:2007-07-12
Peterborough, ON | reply to telcolackey
because you live in death valley california, whereas I live on the trent severn waterway in ontario and enjoy a flat fee for my water |
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voyager6868
join:2003-01-29
Lynnwood, WA | reply to d25m03p
Hmm. Most salaries do go up, unless you're talking about a minimum-wage or fairly low-paying job. If yours doesn't, then perhaps you should try to find a better job. |
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d25m03p
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Langley, BC
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to voyager6868
said by voyager6868 :Basically, ISP prices should go up at the rate of inflation, and their capacities and speeds should keep pace with the current technology. That would be fair. Wrong... If prices go up, they should follow the rate that my salary go up ..... Which is 0%! Every business thinks that prices can keep going up, but if salaries don't follow, then soon, no-one will be able to afford anything. The answer by businesses... Put the prices up again and again.
Who the hell runs these businesses? MBA's? No wonder North America is becoming a third world continent! |
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elwoodblues
Elwood Blues
join:2006-08-30
Toronto, ON | reply to telcolackey
Mine is |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to hurfy
said by hurfy :$18.50 connect fee $2.11 enviromental impact fee $1.44 rate equalization $.37 paperwork for above fees $1.12 utility tax $1.66 sales tax (vat) plus $1 per GB** Hmmmmmm. kind of looks like the average cell phone bill!
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just me2
@comcast.net
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Actually you (or the homeowner) had to pay for the infrastructure to get the water to you. There's the pipes in the home, and the pipes out to the well, and then the well, the pump and the cost to dig down to the water and install a pipe to that water. That can easily cost in the thousands of dollars depending on how deep they have to dig.
Now, you can consider your internet connection the same when you install your cable/fiber from your residence to the cable company and you are responsible for fixing any issues that come up with it. Of course you still need to pay the cable company a fee to use their network and send data out on to the Internet but that will be a much lower cost if you take on the costs/headache of managing the connection from the cable company to your home. |
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davoice
join:2000-08-12
Saxapahaw, NC
·Comporium
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said by telcolackey :Why isn't my water bill flat fee? Mine is... it's "free". All I pay is a real utility company - an electric coop no less - for the power to pull it out of ground and push it into my house.
And my electric utility company actually charges me less per kW when I use more power. Unlike these cap and surcharge ISPs who want to penalize people for actually using their product fully.
}Davoice |
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hurfy
Premium
join:2002-08-06
Spokane, WA
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Ours is certainly close
Off the top of my head:
$40 water bill is for like $4.88 worth of water used and $3 worth of sewer, etc tied to it. The rest is fixed monthly costs even for zero usage. I bet yours is not too much different.
You want internet like your water bill:
$18.50 connect fee
$2.11 enviromental impact fee
$1.44 rate equalization
$.37 paperwork for above fees
$1.12 utility tax
$1.66 sales tax (vat)
plus $1 per GB**
**plus tax (still only half the lines as our water bill but...) |
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Snickerdo
Premium
join:2001-02-28
Niagara Falls, ON
| reply to Raptor
said by Raptor :It is in rural Ontario (in some places anyway). It is in a lot of places, actually. In Montreal it is part of your property taxes from what I understand. |
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voyager6868
join:2003-01-29
Lynnwood, WA
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to jjeffeory
What you say is partly true, but if an ISP is maxing out their bandwidth, they have to add extra routers that cost money and overall the ISP will consume more electricity.
Basically, ISP prices should go up at the rate of inflation, and their capacities and speeds should keep pace with the current technology. That would be fair. |
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jjeffeory
join:2002-12-04
USA
| reply to telcolackey
said by telcolackey :Why isn't my water bill flat fee? Water and internet access are two totally different things.
One is a finite natural resource costing varying amounts of money to pump through an infrastructure. The other is data and electricity which costs minimally more no matter if 1 GB is sent or 200 GB. The power is always on and the actual costs do not match in such a way to compare to moving water.
Geesh, get a society hooked on something and then rake the through the coals! Just hilarious! |
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Raptor
Not a Dumptruck
join:2001-10-21
London, ON | reply to telcolackey
It is in rural Ontario (in some places anyway). |
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telcolackey
The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
Death Valley, CA | reply to anonomous
Why isn't my water bill flat fee? |
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