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mysec
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| Re: Disabling 'Autorun' on USB and beyond. Need help.said by Shriyash  :So you are saying that even if i uncheck Autoplay in C: D: E: and F: drives(shown in the firstpic) it should be ok?... because that autorun.inf file even though present in the USB stick, it is hereby prevented from running. (?)
For any drive disabled, an AutoRun.inf file will not run from the root of that drive.
I've tested with both types of AutoRun.inf files:
Another test is to insert a CD installation disk that has an AutoRun.inf file. The setup.exe file will not automatically start if your CD drive is disabled in TweakUI.
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| Re: Disabling 'Autorun' on USB and beyond. Need help. Thanks mysec, but i realised after reading that article, that even if the Autoplay is disabled, still if you manyally double-click on the DVD/CD, it may be possible for the Autorun.inf thing to be launched!
So, permanently blocking Autorun is a better idea in situations like mine.
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| Re: Disabling 'Autorun' on USB and beyond. Need help. said by Shriyash :Thanks mysec, but i realised after reading that article, that even if the Autoplay is disabled, still if you manyally double-click on the DVD/CD, it may be possible for the Autorun.inf thing to be launched! So, permanently blocking Autorun is a better idea in situations like mine.
That article is talking about changing the defaults for AutoPlay on a given drive by right-clicking the drive in Windows Explorer and choosing Properties.
Forget about AutoPlay vs AutoRun.
You are concerned about preventing the AutoRun.inf file from executing any command.
With the drive disabled in TweakUI for WinXP the AutoRun.inf file will not do anything.
To test, insert an installation CD that runs a setup.exe or install.exe file, first with the CD drive enabled in TweakUI and watch your setup.exe file run.
Repeat the test with the CD drive disabled in TweakUI and the setup.exe file will not run.
Double-click the drive icon in My Computer and it will not run.
This applies also to U3 type USB drives
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| Re: Disabling 'Autorun' on USB and beyond. Need help. said by mysec :
With the drive disabled in TweakUI for WinXP the AutoRun.inf file will not do anything.
I'm not sure I understand this. Doesn't TweakUI only disable autoplay on the drive? TweakUI isn't disabling the drive? So, wouldn't autorun still be an issue? If you are correct then using Tweak UI is the simplest solution to preventing autorun for me. | |
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| Re: Disabling 'Autorun' on USB and beyond. Need help. No, TweakUI is not disabling the drive and TweakUI may be the best solution for you (personally I prefer to collect all such settings in a reg file that I'll execute at a new OS re/installation time).
When you apply TewakUI (clean "Enable Autoplay for removable drives" checkbox, see the last picture) all it does it changes registry value that I've mentioned in this post. The only difference is - it changes setting in HKCU (Current User) and not HKLM (Local Machine) as I mentioned, and, keep in mind, that Local Machine key has priority for that particular setting. It will protect your computer from Autorun executing some program from the new media when you insert it. But, again, it some cases you will be able to start that malware without your actual intent to do so (see my reference earlier).
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1 edit | said by planet : said by mysec :
With the drive disabled in TweakUI for WinXP the AutoRun.inf file will not do anything.
I'm not sure I understand this. Doesn't TweakUI only disable autoplay on the drive? TweakUI isn't disabling the drive? So, wouldn't autorun still be an issue? If you are correct then using Tweak UI is the simplest solution to preventing autorun for me.
The labeling in TweakUI is misleading.
The section AutoPlay|Drives controls the NoDriveAutoRun Registry Key at
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer
Open to this Key and watch the binary value change as you check|uncheck a drive letter in TweakUI.
When you uncheck the CDROM or USB drive letter to disable it, nothing will AutoRun from that drive.
To prove this, you can insert an installation CD which Auto runs a setup.exe file, and watch the
Shell\Autorun\Command entries written to the Drive in the Mountpoints2 Registry Key at
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MountPoints2\
Here is an installation CD with this AutoRun.inf file:
I insert the CD with the CD drive enabled in TweakUI.
Windows reads the AutoRun.inf file, writes the Shell\AutoRun\Command to the Registry:
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and setup.exe launches -- well, it attempts to launch, but because it is not on my White List,
it can't run without my permission:
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Now, with the drive disabled in TweakUI I insert the CD: the Autorun.inf file cannot be read and nothing is written to that drive Key, so nothing can tell setup.exe to run:
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The other setting in TweakUI is Autoplay|Types which controls the values in NoDriveTypeAutoRun at
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer
You can watch the changes (0b1 and 0b5) as you uncheck the boxes in TweakUI)
Ozo has covered this Registry Key in above post, and has some reservations about it. With the drive types unchecked, I have found it to prevent AutoRun.inf from executing in the tests I've run -- even using Shell commands in the AutoRun.inf file -- but will defer to his reservations.
Disabling the Drive does prevent in all cases.
These are the tests I ran with several digital picture frame exploits analyzed by TrendMicro using the exploit AutoRun.inf file and a real trojan:
»www.urs2.net/rsj/computing/tests/auto-inf/
My conclusions:
1) White List security measures for absolute protection against installation of malware executables by remote code execution.
2) TweakUI to disable the drive in Autoplay|Drive if you want to prevent the drive from executing the AutoRun.inf file.
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1 edit | Re: Disabling 'Autorun' on USB and beyond. Need help. said by mysec :My conclusions: ... 2) TweakUI to disable the drive if you want to prevent the drive from executing the AutoRun.inf file. ... Question: do you or anyone else know for sure if the TweakUI settings persist in spite of the MountPoints2 key possibly over-riding various Windows settings, as Nick Brown noted in EGeezer 's »Blocking autorun link and Scott Dunn referred to in Shriyash 's »windowssecrets.com/comp/071108 link? I've got a friend in a 3rd-World country who's wrestling right now to protect against USB-drive malware that keeps appearing on flashdrives being exchanged with government ministries... govt malware protection is virtually non-existent there. Some of these drives pass back and forth multiple times, so if MountPoints2 stored data over-rides other settings and allows autorun.inf to run on a USB drive that's been plugged into their computer before, that presents a real threat to using TweakUI or similar in that locale. Using the IniFileMapping\AutoRun.inf reg-fix EGeezer noted above would probably be their only simple answer... but I'd really like to know for sure.
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2 edits | Re: Disabling 'Autorun' on USB and beyond. Need help. I read both the article and blog when they appeared.
Nick refers to the NoDriveTypeAutoRun key but not the NoDriveAutoRun key.
I've tested with the latter and have not found it to be overridden.
Regarding your friend: is he concerned about his own computer, or government computers?
If his own, just install a White List execution prevention program and he's safe.
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| Re: Disabling 'Autorun' on USB and beyond. Need help. said by mysec :I read both the article and blog when they appeared. I've tested many times with my XP laptop and have never found the mountpoints2 entries to stick once the CD is removed from the drive, or USB drive unplugged. Nick doesn't elaborate on the cache setting, so I don't know what he is referring to. Regarding your friend: is he concerned about his own computer, or government computers? If his own, just install a White List execution prevention program and he's safe. ---- rich It's their own computer they're trying to protect. They've been attacked 3 times in recent days, and there's a concern that sooner or later their AV may not hold against the flood... the most recent attack was related to an autorun-triggered Win32/PSW virus varient that only made it onto their AV's signature list three days or so before the attack occurred.
There seems to be a number of things that affect the vulnerability of a computer to autorun-related malware. Obviously, Brown and Dunn seem to think there's a way for the MountPoints2 key to over-ride other settings. Your experience seems to show otherwise. It's never easy, is it? 
I guess I need to dig more deeply into the whitelisting approach... though I'm not sure how easy that will be for them to acquire and install where they are.
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