[OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? in OptimumOnline

[OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? in OptimumOnline http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20270700 en Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:46:08 EDT Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:46:08 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21234469 anon : Some areas are affected, some aren't. I can tell you this - in Weehawken, OOL limits your torrent upload capabilities, regardless of your chosen port. The low port range does not help. I've tested from a few different homes here. They stopped doing the reset thing several months back, but they do still interfere. You'll see an initial spike where you can utilize your full u/l bandwidth, and then you'll see it drop down to 5-25kb/s per connection. The only exception is if you're uploading to another OOL user. It'll be a glorious day when Fios is available here.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21234469 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:20:21 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21229266 Thinkdiff : As pointed out, it is true. Read my comments more carefully. OOL never capped just for running a server, only for prolonged high speed uploads. Didn't matter if the uploads were from running a server, using a torrent, or sending files to friends. As far as we know, the capping only depended on speed and duration. Some claimed it also depended on how many connections you had open to different IPs (in the case of torrents) but I don't think it was ever proven.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21229266 Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:35:31 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21228534 eival :

said by MxxCon

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they NEVER capped purely for running servers.
they used to cap for "too much" upload. but just because you have a service listening on some port, you won't get capped.

ive never been capped either, the only time ive ever had an issue uploadwise in the 4 years as a member was 2 weeks ago when there was an issue after some updates which was causing packetloss from their servers but its fine now]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21228534 Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:25:49 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21228517 eival :

said by BrooklynFans :

Guys don't try to download torrent with those fresh stuff I keep getting 2 letter that optimum sell out their customer. I keep receive those warning letter from optimum talk about those torrent shiT that I just download the movie. I never had those problem until I met Optimum. They are good citizen but shit service

thats cause your downloading torrents that were setup by the feds to catch people, stop using public torrent sites and you'll stop getting letters.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21228517 Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:23:41 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21228082 MxxCon : they NEVER capped purely for running servers.
they used to cap for "too much" upload. but just because you have a service listening on some port, you won't get capped.

anyway, can you get a moderator to close this thread?
it's old, inaccurate and offtopic.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21228082 Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:58:19 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21227485 vexation :

said by Thinkdiff

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OOL never capped for running servers, especially not instantly.

Not true. If I uploaded anything for more than 4-5 hours I would get capped right away. Infact, I was capped about 3 times. (They would cap by mac address, so I would turn in my modem for another one to elude it)

I'm gathering that now a days they don't cap. Lord knows about 4 years ago they throttled like maniacs..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21227485 Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:38:54 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21221386 anon : Guys don't try to download torrent with those fresh stuff I keep getting 2 letter that optimum sell out their customer. I keep receive those warning letter from optimum talk about those torrent shiT that I just download the movie. I never had those problem until I met Optimum. They are good citizen but shit service ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21221386 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 02:05:47 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21212762 jaa : Did you read this old thread, or just decide to resurrect it? Read the posts by Alcohol - no issue with torrents on OOL. No capping, no resets.

If you are having problems with torrents, just READ this thread (and follow the advice given) and you will be fine. If you still have problems, start a thread and I'm sure you can get help here to resolve it.
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Caps were only for uploading at high speeds for long durations. OOL no longer caps (hasn't in a couple of years).

While running servers is still technically against the TOS, I highly doubt you'd show up on anybody's radar. Just keep the server simple and traffic to a minimum. Don't make some warez ftp. Personal stuff is fine.

If you want to be a little more in the clear, you can upgrade to OOL Boost (30Mb/5Mb). It specifically allows SMTP and HTTP servers (ports 25 and 80), while the TOS still prohibits running servers on any other ports.

Personally, I have Boost and run a variety of servers, all for personal use. I haven't had any problems since I got OOL back in 2001.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21185024 Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:40:04 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21184977 vexation : Ok.. I've had Opt Online since '99. They have ALWAYS capped when uploading. I haven't tried to upload anything silly in a couple of years. Back in the day if you even thought of running an FTP your modem would be throttled in a matter of seconds. Is that sill the case? I would like to run an ftp, but don't want to deal with opt online capping me to 20kbps upload.

Is this still the case, or am I in the free and clear? Anyone else running ftp's?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21184977 Mon, 29 Sep 2008 04:20:28 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20801273 Alcohol : It's a program called DU Meter]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20801273 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:50:34 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20801106 stupidangelx : »/speak/slidesh···VudHM%3D

how do u get to this page?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20801106 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:23:41 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20799539 Alcohol : Probably a tracker issue, not related to Optimum Online.. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20799539 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:39:14 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20796455 radmish : I was having various torrent problems like not being able to connect to trackers on some torrents, lots of torrents being listed red (and yet somehow downloading still), and slower than expected download speeds. I upgraded from µTorrent 1.7.7 to the 1.8 RC2 and they instantly all solved themselves after the upgrade.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20796455 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:11:38 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20783097 MuDvAyNe : yes I have and notice no difference at all.
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Use uTorrent with encryption and ports around 1000-1200. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20671413 Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:53:34 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20671183 Rekrul : I'm in Connecticut and I'm thinking of signing up with Optimum Online. Does anyone know if they interfere with BitTorrent in CT?

The customer rep I talked to said that they have no bandwidth usage limits, but when I asked about problems with BT, she wasn't sure what to tell me. She said that she hadn't been told about any company imposed limits on specific uses, but then again, they may not even tell the reps things like that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20671183 Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:55:33 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20610909 TheWiseGuy : Then again when you are seeding using P2P, I am pretty sure, Cablevision considers that as running a server, so I am not sure that it should matter. ;)

In fact, any time you run P2P you are technically running both a client and a file server.
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Boost's TOS permits servers only on ports 80 and 25 (HTTP & SMTP). This means we can't setup a tracker (well, not within the TOS for OOL anyways).

Maybe ooltech could shed some more light on this for us instead?

As I've said before, Glasnost is working on a test for this type of throttling.

Also, as Alcohol has found, changing the ports to lower ports (1000-1200) for incoming connections allows you to seed normally.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20610273 Sun, 08 Jun 2008 10:29:28 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20599559 StreetSpirit :

said by JDCMAN

:

Or we could just get a bunch of creative commons songs, or a Linux ISO...whatever test files are fine. Photos would be cool though.

@dozebeats

Yeah, Alcohol was right, changing the port helped my speed immensely too.

Absolutely. I've been a little short on free time lately, and won't be able to participate for another week or two due to family obligations.

If someone else would like to work with JDCMAN

, please feel free to take my spot.

Dave]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20599559 Fri, 06 Jun 2008 02:03:09 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20599479 StreetSpirit :

said by Alcohol

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Try using lower number ports, like 1000-1200 if you're getting throttled.

Hey!! I'm seeding! :)) GREAT JOB dude!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20599479 Fri, 06 Jun 2008 01:30:41 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20598979 slicknick198 : Thanks for the advice about trying a lower port number. I'll try it out.

cheers]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20598979 Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:12:59 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20586936 JDCMAN : Or we could just get a bunch of creative commons songs, or a Linux ISO...whatever test files are fine. Photos would be cool though.

@dozebeats

Yeah, Alcohol was right, changing the port helped my speed immensely too.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20586936 Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:01:28 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20586170 dozebeats : Just to confirm, changing ports also boosted my speeds greatly.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20586170 Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:02:35 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20586058 StreetSpirit : I would need MxxCon

's help. He's the torrent expert, but I am sure I woud like to do this. The test files will be just that, and of course will be legal.

Another problem is schedule, on my end. This month is extremely busy, almost everyone (including Mom!) has their birthdays coming up in early June. I figure I'd want to do it afterwards.

I'd like to hear from Mxxcon as to how to set up a simple tracker. Infact, running a tracker from the OOL connection serves no useful purpose other than simplicity as we're interested in basically the transactions of the peers and seeds in the swarm.

Max? Any thoughts?

BTW using a third party torrent service makes good sense. I didn't know Imageshack had one. Will take a look- thanks for the heads up.

Speaking of Imageshack, I have many photos in RAW format which were taken by a pro-Paparazzi' friend, that he couldn't sell. They are copyrighted but he will without a doubt give us permission to use them as test files.

Dave]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20586058 Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:40:56 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20585667 JDCMAN : Hey, if you want to setup a host to tracker for a little bit, I'll take a part in your experiment. If it's legal content (which it naturally will be) we can even use ImageShack's Torrent service to test seeding to non OOL hosts.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20585667 Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:30:39 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20585632 StreetSpirit : Of course. Infact, oddly enough I can upload to comcast hosts. But my upstream REALLY opens up to other optonline.net hosts. The conclusion is obvious - intra network isn't using anti p2p tech.

I would be up for a test of setting up a tracker [on my OOL line, obviously having only a few test files), and letting other OOL subscribers use it as a test say once a week for a few hours (on a schedule). The glasnost test in it's current form is fairly meaningless for us. I pass with flying colors yet i cannot seed. :)

Dave]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20585632 Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:25:49 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20583983 majortom1029 : Question You guys doing these tests from people who are not using comcast? IF the person is getting throttled at the other end wouldnt that make it look like its cablevision doing it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20583983 Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:52:28 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20583708 JDCMAN : By the way, I got a response from Glasnost- they're working on a new test to see if particular bittorrent behavior is interfered with, including seeding,]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20583708 Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:07:45 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20572630 JDCMAN : I was getting 250KBPS down tops on some torrents. I changed the port to 1010, boom, 1MB/S easily on the same torrent (I deleted the data when I retested of course). Thanks!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20572630 Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:19:50 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20572620 Alcohol : Try using lower number ports, like 1000-1200 if you're getting throttled. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20572620 Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:16:18 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20572612 JDCMAN : Not sure. uTorrent supposedly picks outgoing ports randomly (looks like it's using 4500-4700 right now for outgoing), my port to receive incoming connections is 50150...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20572612 Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:14:49 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20572571 Alcohol : What port? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20572571 Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:04:05 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20572539 JDCMAN : I sent an email to glasnost asking if they could make an alternative test to test uploading while downloading vs. uploading to Glasnost only (emulating seeding), I'll let you know if I get a response...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20572539 Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:55:56 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20572490 blanka2k2 : I'm having some improvements in my area. I can now upload fine whether downloading or not. However downloads, I feel, are still throttled for me. A file with over 1000 seeds does not reach over 300 kB/s even 20 minutes after letting it download.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20572490 Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:40:06 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20572487 JDCMAN : BTW, forced encryption on uTorrent 1.77 didn't help seeding, but I'm seeding on uTorrent 1.8 beta with forced encryption normally...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20572487 Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:39:26 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20572425 Alcohol : No throttling here. Uploaded 40Gb yesterday via torrents.

It looks like it's dependent on your area, and your node.
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It's something I'm upset about. I'm on a private tracker, and I can't keep my ratio up unless I go to a public tracker and repeatedly download large disc images (e.x. Debian DVDS) in the background so I can seed.

Now, granted, it could be worse. At least we can download. And, Cablevision didn't blindly throttle uploads, uploads in BT go through if downloading. I assume this is so peers share with you (because the BT protocol is designed to assist people who can upload and ignore peers who don't have outgoing open).

However, it's still something that Cablevision won't admit to or tell customers about. My node is sparsely populated (it's right next to my property, I have two cable feeds running into my house with signal strength through the roof), and my neighbors aren't heavy downloaders (excepting a one week period after a particularly bad storm, I've been getting my promised speeds, even on off network speed tests and FTP downloads) regardless of the time (3AM, 6PM, peak or off).

Can any OOL staff shed some light on this for us?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20572350 Sun, 01 Jun 2008 10:53:03 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20570309 jpr281 : No problems here in Brookhaven.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20570309 Sat, 31 May 2008 19:08:00 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20570260 slicknick198 : I also have not been able to seed for a few weeks. Uploading starts out normal, slows and then eventually hits zero. Haven't been able to figure out any patterns yet, and have tried many combinations of encryption with Azureus, nothing.

Regular download speeds are fine, and upload speeds are fine too, just not with torrents/P2P. This sucks, but it's nice to see this thread knowing it has become more widespread as of late...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20570260 Sat, 31 May 2008 18:52:31 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20561135 StreetSpirit : I figured out a bit of a work around. As long as I'm downloading, all torrents seed normally.

So I simply limit my downstream rate. While downloading, I have no problem hitting my upstream max. I set torrents up for 200kB/s down, and 250kB/s up. Seems to be working well, and if I really need something downloaded quickly, I can always use this method later to even out my ratio.

The DL takes a little longer, but that really doesn't concern me as long as I'm rebuilding my ratio and won't be stuck at 0.1% anymore. :)

Screencap attached.

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Workaround for me to be able to seed back.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20561135 Thu, 29 May 2008 22:54:34 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20552787 BLUNTED 1 : Seems like OOL is getting worse than comcast with this crap. I don't use BT and never have but maybe I'll set 1 up and see what it does on OOL and FIos.

My OOL has been really good with speeds for the last month and doesn't drop under 26 mb in the day and night its 33 mb. I'll probably go back to 15/2 since the free month of Boost is up again and I want to see if the 15/2 got any better because I think they did something to my node as I couldn't get good speed in the day about a month ago.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20552787 Wed, 28 May 2008 15:29:43 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20552614 StreetSpirit :

said by Lex Luthor

said by StreetSpirit

:

I've tried all the combination of encryption options and three different clients. uTorrent 1.6, uTorrent 1.8 latest beta, and Az 2.5. In all I increased half open connection allowed, set 'lazy bit-field' to enabled, however, with little positive results.

Lex, I tried "enabled" with legacy connections allowed, enabled with legacy disallowed, forced with legacy allowed, forced with legacy disallowed.. Same results. Peers connected, usually with encryption, sometimes outgoing, sometimes incoming, and would start at like 3kbps, then slowly go below 1kbps, .5, and disconnect.

Thanks for your help. Maybe it's some sort of bot which looks for node saturation and kicks in the P2P disruption.

Dunno.. I do use IRC quite a lot, and never have a problem reaching my max if the user's able to receive that fast.

I don't expect seeding at 500kB, I wouldn,t but I should be able to send at say 50-100kB/s without a problem.. And it's obvious my node is saturated. I get 1-4mbps during prime time with normal OOL, which is why I switched back to Boost. Even 12-15mbps, 1/2-1/3rd of advertised is way better during prime time than normal OOL in this 23 story apt house.

Who knows :)
Dave]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20552614 Wed, 28 May 2008 14:59:53 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20552590 StreetSpirit :

said by tooch

You're not the only one. I didn't think I'd be posting this, but.. I am... I stopped being able to seed unless downloading. :) And I do hope it is an infrastructure upgrade. However, I've been stuck at 15mbit instead of 30 for the last 7 months (OOL tried their best, but it prolly costs more split my node than to fix my connection - but I can't say they did not try.) Anyway, you aren't alone! :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20552590 Wed, 28 May 2008 14:54:24 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20552585 Lex Luthor :

said by StreetSpirit

Have you tried the latest uTorrent 1.8 beta with Outgoing Encryption set to FORCED? You should still be able to check allow incoming legacy connections. That seems to be the best combination for me.

I've noticed days where I'm not able to seed, but recently, it's been very good.

Maybe it's something triggered by node capacity, time of day or something like that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20552585 Wed, 28 May 2008 14:53:32 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20552567 StreetSpirit :

said by tooch

:

It doesn't seem to be everyone, but almost a small group of random subscribers here and there. I don't want to call, because I'd bet I'd get the 'Your levels are fine' or 'No, Optimum does not traffic shape in any way'.

Until a month ago, I had no problems with seeding. Now, I'm lucky if it goes to 20-30kbps, where as before I was seeing uploads of my max.

Dunno.. I might set up an SSH tunnel as an above poster suggested.

Dave]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20552567 Wed, 28 May 2008 14:50:19 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20552515 StreetSpirit :

said by Alcohol

:

Something is definitely going on. Notice the noticeable drop in upload speed.

As of about two weeks ago, I have been unable to seed. For as long as the BT download, I upload fine. Once the BT download is done and I would like to seed it back 1.5x, or even 1x, It just STOPS. I get tons of connections, most disconnect, some start at 2-3kilobits per second and drop off from there.

I've tried all the combination of encryption options and three different clients. uTorrent 1.6, uTorrent 1.8 latest beta, and Az 2.5. In all I increased half open connection allowed, set 'lazy bit-field' to enabled, however, with little positive results.

I ran uTorrent on a private site, with no NAT (green NAT), no DHT etc on a private site, using all the encryption combination (i tried them all), for 48 hours. It uploaded 384 megabytes. In 2 days! I even increased allowed upload slots to 50. IT seems whatever it is, I just can't seed.

I'm back on BOOST and yes I still have that speed problem.

*** SOMETHING *** changed, as I could seed 500KB/s if I liked just a few months ago.

I like politically/socially oriented torrents, for example , »onebigtorrent.org/index.php formerly known as the Noam Chomsky archive. I also use a private tracker, mostly for testing. It happens on both- tried without router, the usual with no success.

Regards,
Dave]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20552515 Wed, 28 May 2008 14:40:45 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20551950 frdrizzt : I'd plug in your modem direct to the PC and see if the internet still crashes entirely. Most likely it won't.

Obviously you may be finding general internet slowdown if you're using most of your bandwidth on BT. I don't know what sort of download/upload speeds you're getting, but as Lex said, it is probably unrelated to your actual connection.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20551950 Wed, 28 May 2008 13:07:40 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20551731 Lex Luthor :

said by MuDvAyNe

:

I've noticed lately that when I use BT my internet gets really slow. It's almost impossible to view a webpage. Second after time my internet will totally die and I have to reset my router to get the internet back. God Verizon and NYC need to strike a deal already, I am tired of this bs from Cablevision.

That all probably has nothing to do with OOL. You might want to try the filesharing forum or your router manufacture's forum for some support on those issues.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20551731 Wed, 28 May 2008 12:33:54 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20551687 MuDvAyNe : I've noticed lately that when I use BT my internet gets really slow. It's almost impossible to view a webpage. Second after time my internet will totally die and I have to reset my router to get the internet back. God Verizon and NYC need to strike a deal already, I am tired of this bs from Cablevision.
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said by Dasmoover

:

Which ssh tunneling service do you use? I can't even upload past 20kbps without it dying.

I'm using a personally created SSH tunnel by running my own ssh process on a server in a data center, when using a 100mbit/s ethernet internet link at work, I get upto 40mbit/s upload through the ssh process.

Also PuTTY is very unstable for tunneling, it crashes often, something as short as 10 minutes, I think its related to either transfer speed or connection attempt speed or simultanous connections. I use a cygwin OpenSSH client.

Also to reprevent yourself from being firewalled, set up reverse connection from the server to you. The only problem with this is you have to let the BT Client allow multiple incoming connections from the same IP (this is usually disabled to prevent leeching attempts). All incomming connections come from 127.0.0.1, it sucks, but how can you complain. To install a VPN requires root access on the server, which I don't feel like paying for.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20498074 Sat, 17 May 2008 13:53:40 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20494005 Dasmoover : Which ssh tunneling service do you use? I can't even upload past 20kbps without it dying.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20494005 Fri, 16 May 2008 15:43:19 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489401 patcat88 : In 2006 I subscribed to OOL Boost, encountered RSTs (saw it on Wireshark, every connection got a RST within 2 seconds) on eMule and Bittorrent making the apps absolutely useless. So I disconnected a month later.

In 2008 I resubscribed to OOL Boost, since the router that ATT uses for its DSL here seems to choke all download whenever there is more than ~150kbit/s of uploading. Pointless to complain. Got OOL Boost and this is what I found. No more RST crap. Bittorrent and Emule, and upload perfectly, except for 1 issue. The upload rarely will go above 2700kbit/s from p2p traffic. If I do a speed test during p2p uploading, the total upload will jump to 4500, which is what a speed test without anything else running says is my upload speed.

If I turn on ssh tunneling, and restart uTorrent, my upload speed will jump to 4500 within 30 seconds uTorrent. Without tunneling, uTorrent will jump to 2700 within 30 seconds, same ramp up time. It will never hit that unless I use ssh tunneling. Emule is incompatible with ssh tunneling (won't tolerate the kinds of incoming connections ssh generatres/psuedo firewalled), so I am not able to test that.

I guess from my experience and interaction with OOL Boost, Cablevision put QOS tagging on Bittorrent and p2p, and its the first to experience packet loss when there is congestion. Not bad at all. Much better than sending RSTs. I'm happy since I wont be getting a cap for torrenting and no RSTs, and even at 2700kbit/s OOL Boost is still the fastest uploading consumer grade ISP in the USA short of FIOS. (Compare to 1mbit/s for Comcast and Time Warner)

When with the speed limits OOL Boost makes me jump up and down with happiness. Much better than 600kbit/s with ATT DSL and 1000kbit/s Time Warner. I'm not complaining.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489401 Thu, 15 May 2008 19:34:16 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20483692 MxxCon : »trvx.com/rasgs/ is free and better than dumeter
(and new better looking version will be out very soon)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20483692 Wed, 14 May 2008 20:32:37 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20480490 archaned : cool, thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20480490 Wed, 14 May 2008 10:40:18 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20480382 Alcohol :

said by archaned

:

i've been searching for this report information and not having any luck. Where on the optimum did you find it?

Thanks.

It's not through Optimum Online. It's a download and upload meter program for your computer.

www.dumeter.com ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20480382 Wed, 14 May 2008 10:19:11 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20480194 archaned : i've been searching for this report information and not having any luck. Where on the optimum did you find it?

Thanks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20480194 Wed, 14 May 2008 09:43:45 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20471912 tooch : I shouldn't even have to.

If it's the bandwidth that's a problem for Cablevision, how about they take the $650 million for Newsday and $496 million for Sundance and invest it in their network and infrastructure? Ok, so that's a drastic example (I have no complaints for non-torrent internet activity with Boost) but still....it's frustrating.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20471912 Mon, 12 May 2008 19:30:26 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20471449 anon :

said by tooch

:

It's ironic; I was visiting my folks in Pennsylvania who have Comcast, and I experienced fantastic torrent speeds (700-800KB/s down sustained).

I would move to FiOS if I could but I'm not keen on their contracts and I may be moving to Maryland (Comcast) in a few months. I guess if they're using Sandvine then that's it, game over.

VPN]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20471449 Mon, 12 May 2008 18:04:45 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20469499 tooch : It's ironic; I was visiting my folks in Pennsylvania who have Comcast, and I experienced fantastic torrent speeds (700-800KB/s down sustained).

I would move to FiOS if I could but I'm not keen on their contracts and I may be moving to Maryland (Comcast) in a few months. I guess if they're using Sandvine then that's it, game over.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20469499 Mon, 12 May 2008 11:53:26 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20469315 destinz1 : ool/comcast changed their sandvine methods in the past couple weeks and this test clearly isn't formulated to recognize it. you really don't need a test, though, to tell if your isp is throttling your torrents. if you use bittorrent with any kind of frequency, you'll witness the drastic changes with your own two eyes. the very second that fios comes around here, i'll be taking my $215/mo business elsewhere. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20469315 Mon, 12 May 2008 11:15:51 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20467922 Dasmoover : I can hardly torrent anymore, this seems to be more than an upgrade :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20467922 Mon, 12 May 2008 00:32:46 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20466297 tooch : I just got through on the torrent test that jefe suggested and as expected, Optimum passed 100%; no problems whatsoever. So I'm still stumped on why torrents are not speedy.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20466297 Sun, 11 May 2008 17:28:26 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20465914 blanka2k2 :

said by tooch

:

I hope that's all it is. I hate to keep bringing this thread back but I'm starting to feel like I'm the only person still currently experiencing torrent problems (and since I use them a lot it's a valid issue). For the record, I still have at best 250KB/s down and 0-40KB/s up, with bursts randomly up to 400KBs up (my torrent upload cap).

I mean, I'm going to assume that Optimum isn't throttling; if they were I'm sure there'd be many more threads and posts about it as opposed to the few subscribers in this thread.

I'm still wondering if I should just call Optimum or if it would be pointless.

You are definitely not the only one here. I am dling a torrent as I speak right now, and the max I am getting is 250 kB/s with some bursts of 500 kB/s then back down. I am connected to around 100 seeds, trust me you are not the only one.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20465914 Sun, 11 May 2008 15:45:12 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20465824 tooch : I hope that's all it is. I hate to keep bringing this thread back but I'm starting to feel like I'm the only person still currently experiencing torrent problems (and since I use them a lot it's a valid issue). For the record, I still have at best 250KB/s down and 0-40KB/s up, with bursts randomly up to 400KBs up (my torrent upload cap).

I mean, I'm going to assume that Optimum isn't throttling; if they were I'm sure there'd be many more threads and posts about it as opposed to the few subscribers in this thread.

I'm still wondering if I should just call Optimum or if it would be pointless.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20465824 Sun, 11 May 2008 15:23:33 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20465047 JDCMAN : Even while I had issues (I don't anymore), the Glasnost Bittorrent test showed no issues. Perhaps they're doing some sort of infrastructure upgrade. Youtube has been faster since the upgrade (it was unbearably slow at one point), and they've been touting this new ExpressLink thing. Maybe they're rolling out some network optimizations, but the transition isn't perfectly smooth.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20465047 Sun, 11 May 2008 11:37:02 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20463586 tooch : I've been trying to get to that test since you mentioned it, the best I ever got is getting to the page where I have to trust the Java applet (OS X) and then it fails because the servers are busy.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20463586 Sat, 10 May 2008 23:20:20 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20450988 jefe : I had the same problem. I kept trying and the test eventually started.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20450988 Thu, 08 May 2008 11:19:25 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20450952 tooch : I've been attempting to take the test, but it was on Digg and the servers have been busy every time I tried it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20450952 Thu, 08 May 2008 11:13:00 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20450875 jefe : Why don't you run the test in that link I quoted above and see if it reports that you're being throttled?

Maybe what you and that small group of others are experiencing is due to something completely outside the OOL network.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20450875 Thu, 08 May 2008 10:59:31 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20450758 tooch : It doesn't seem to be everyone, but almost a small group of random subscribers here and there. I don't want to call, because I'd bet I'd get the 'Your levels are fine' or 'No, Optimum does not traffic shape in any way'.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20450758 Thu, 08 May 2008 10:34:00 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20450505 jefe : Y'know, I rarely use torrents and thus have only had a mild interest in this thread from a technical standpoint but this thread caught my eye: »Test Your ISP For BitTorrent Shenanigans

I ran the test for bit torrent throttling described here »broadband.mpi-sws.de/transparency/ and the results were negative. That is...OOL did not appear to be doing any torrent throttling...up or down.

FWIW.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20450505 Thu, 08 May 2008 09:37:07 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20449556 INT0CABLE : ok this suxs. my torrents are getting throttled big time on the download side . its weird since i can upload normally but my download sucks it will go to 2mb/s then will hover between 100-500 kb/s . im on boost. im on a private site where uppers are required to use servers boxes 100/100mbit and i never had a problem maxing my boost to download but lately (during the last 2-3 weeks i havent been able to reach 3mb/s like i usually did
--
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
A Vote For Hillary Is A Vote For Bush
RON PAUL REVOLUTION]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20449556 Thu, 08 May 2008 00:54:28 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20414302 DSun101 : I've been getting a large anime torrent, its been running for 2 days 9 hours. Just kinda let it run at 400KB/s constantly to see if any slowdown has occured. And nope, i've uploaded 50GB now and its still running just as fast as when it started.

(damn 1 seed torrents taking forever, Dont like to run it so long usually)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20414302 Thu, 01 May 2008 00:16:56 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20413388 tooch : I tried two torrents simultaneously from that site this time, same result, both torrents combined going about 250KB/s. I have the correct ports opened and forwarded. Uploading at 40KB/s. As I typed that last sentence the download jumped up to 450KB/s for about 10 seconds then back down to 250KB/s.

I'm also downloading something from Demonoid, 10 leechers and absolutely no uploading to any of them.

Occasionally though I can hit my 400KB/s torrent cap, but usually for about 10-20 seconds randomly through the day---I used to be able to max it all the time. I'm just wondering why this happening, especially on Boost. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20413388 Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:25:37 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20412903 StreetSpirit : From the public site I mentioned, some torrents go faster, some slower. And no, the speeds do not really vary.. Sometimes a fast seed will connect and you'll get a burst on a slower torrent, but with private sites, the speeds are usually very good for the duration of the download. It's now about 15 minutes after I posted the above screencap and the torrents are still very fast.

However, using a private tracker, I can easily max my line out. I used to be able to have ~3.0MB/s (30mbit) downloading, but since my BOOST is somewhat screwed up and only yields a max of 15mbit downstream, I usually go at about 1.5MB/s.

Dave

Example of great speeds.
About 20 minutes later (Note that the speeds are holding)

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20412903 Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:51:06 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20412832 tooch :

said by StreetSpirit

:

I use uTorrent once or twice a week to download the latest 'Democracy, Now!' net cast (completely legal) and some other news / politics related material, and I have not had any problems either downloading or seeding.

I don't believe torrents are regulated per se. At least, not in my area on the BOOST tier.

By the way for those curious where I download the webcasts from: »onebigtorrent.org/torrents/3249/···-29-2008 (this website was formerly known as 'Chomskytorrents.org')

Regards,
David

Did you let the torrent fully download? I tried it and it peaked at 1.8MB/s for about 15 seconds then dropped to about 100-200KB/s. Upload was around 30KB/s. The speed drop was not network congestion. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20412832 Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:39:27 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20408686 StreetSpirit : I use uTorrent once or twice a week to download the latest 'Democracy, Now!' net cast (completely legal) and some other news / politics related material, and I have not had any problems either downloading or seeding.

I don't believe torrents are regulated per se. At least, not in my area on the BOOST tier.

By the way for those curious where I download the webcasts from: »onebigtorrent.org/torrents/3249/···-29-2008 (this website was formerly known as 'Chomskytorrents.org')

Regards,
David]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20408686 Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:38:11 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20400060 Yaveo : I haven't noticed any throttling since this speed change.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20400060 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:05:18 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20399479 WoodyLI :

said by Alcohol

:

It's 16/2, not 20/2.

I don't know what SafePeer is, i hope it's not something like Peer Guardian.

You won't get capped, download/upload all you want.

Yeah 15/2 I meant to say. I understand they just bumped it slightly to about 16 (I get about 14500 / 1900 kb/s up from about 13500)

SafePeer is just like Peer Guardian from what I understand. It's an Azureus plugin and uses the same data from Bluetack to block unwanted peers and hopefully avoid the nastygrams.

I use bit torrent sort of like a TIVO. I miss a TV show and I dl it and try to share 1:1. I use Blockbuster for my movies and don't dl much else so hopefully they won't bother me for my occasional use.

As far as the speeds, I guess I wasn't throttled because my torrent speeds were normal for my connection at 500/150 kB/s.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20399479 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:25:19 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20398318 JDCMAN : I was able to attain my old speeds (1MB/S+) last night. Perhaps there was a network issue of some sort?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20398318 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 06:24:24 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397396 BLUNTED 1 : We can always hope for it but you have seen me go crazy on here and about 7 months of going at it with OOL techs and still its a messed up line for me and the best they can do is credit me. I don't want credit I want better service so take the money you credit me and fix something LOL.

My speeds in the day are less than half of advertised with OOL while my Fios is $5 more than an internet only OOL Boost and you get more than your advertised speeds with Fios.

Which package you have with Fios ?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397396 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:39:23 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397375 Alcohol : Don't worry though. Lets keep our OOL connections regardless and maybe our rants in this forum will change something. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397375 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:34:59 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397360 BLUNTED 1 : Yea tell me about it :( I have been through it all with OOL and my fios never has any issues that OOL has so I believe you on that one. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397360 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:31:36 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397324 Alcohol : Yeah but i don't even get anywhere close so what i'm supposed to get. I also have FIOS and with my FIOS connection i get what i pay for. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397324 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:24:16 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397317 BLUNTED 1 : Its advertised at 15/2 but the cap is set at 16500/2200 ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397317 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:22:15 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397259 anon : This is just started happening a few days ago. I can definitely confirm that Cablevision is throttling torrent connections. Exhibit A: I have a desktop that is connected to a tracker showing 50+ seeds and 600+ peers. Normally this would yield a 700-800KB/s speeds, and a few days ago it did indeed. As it stands right now I'm getting around 120Kb/s max (checked the history over the last day). I thought this was just this torrent that was peculiar, so I've tried from a few laptops in my house picking fairly active trackers all the time with the same results. Note, that when I run a speedtest on Speakeasy it's showing around 10Mbps downstream and 1.8Mbps upstream, so it's certainly just the torrents that are affected.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397259 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:04:45 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397239 Alcohol : My connection doesn't seem to be getting throttled anymore. Not sure about others.

It's 16/2, not 20/2.

They don't cap and the throttling only started recently.

I don't know what SafePeer is, i hope it's not something like Peer Guardian.

You won't get capped, download/upload all you want. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397239 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:01:24 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397192 WoodyLI : I'm curious and trying to understand the comments but are you guys saying the throttling is only affecting you while running torrent clients or does it continue after you shut down the torrent client?

I just installed the ISP network monitor and had been using Azureus for several years with a script that cycles my uploads on and off periodically to avoid getting capped. I've been capped three times in the past and don't want to get disconnected for the fourth cap (FIOS isn't available on my block yet). My last cap was just over a year ago and they warned me that it was the last warning when they lifted it.

I started boost in December of 2006 but canceled it after I realized I had been knocked me back down to standard service without telling me and then got capped.

After reading this I understand that they don't cap anymore but are throttling instead. I am in the process now of downloading a 1.1GB file on standard OOL 20/2 service and getting about 400-500kB/s down, and a fairly steady 150kB/s up with about 250 active peers and seeds. I've set both up and down speeds to unlimited and have encryption enabled and am using SafePeer. The Network Status Monitor is running but I'm not sure what it means. The first line...(%RST)...started at 0 then 8.8%, 14.3%, 12.0%. This seems pretty normal from what I've seen so I'm not sure if this is an indication of throttling since my speed is good for my OOL advertised connection speed.

We'll see if I get capped again and have to cancel my service and start it again in my wife's name or something.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397192 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:50:31 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20396745 anon : I find that Optimum Online is either having troubles in the past couple of days or cutting back on bandwidth.

I can't get FIOS in my neighborhood, so I might as well accept the new speeds.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20396745 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:23:21 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20393479 Dasmoover : My torrents go up to 200kbps then drop about 50kbps per sec until it dies, I'm really not liking OOL right now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20393479 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 23:54:07 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20392181 tooch : I tried a download of an Ubuntu torrent; it started and peaked at 1.8MB/s then dipped to 150KB/s and it's currently jumping between 150KB/s and 600KB/s down and not more than 8KB/s up. I'm in 10707.

Edit: My torrent client is set for unlimited speed on download and 400KB/s upload.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20392181 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:14:13 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20391755 Alcohol : I'm getting regular speeds again.

I'm not sure if it's because of something i did but i've been uploading at 500kB since morning.
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I tried the online test which looks by description to be fairly thorough and it says I am not being throttled. How accurate is this? I'll keep both connections for a month and play around with them some more. Thanks for all your replies and let me know if there are any other updates. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20391007 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:58:56 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20387457 JDCMAN : Quite a few of us have reached higher speeds on the same equipment and protocoll (BitTorrent). I haven't changed any hardware and software and I can no longer attain the same speeds.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20387457 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:30:39 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20386897 anon : maybe your pc/router can't handle all the simultaneous connections?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20386897 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:55:32 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20385403 anon : Yes:

»arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20···cut.html

Page 2 in this PDF:

»cache2.vuze.com/docs/internet_fu···Tool.pdf]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20385403 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:01:48 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20382150 Dasmoover : My downloads aren't effected, only uploads.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20382150 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:14:25 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20382149 FullSpeed : Those suggesting FiOS are making me angry cuz FiOS is available in my area and I was considering it too(you can check that I opened a thread in FiOS forum, i guess, 2 months ago) but then I weighed the pros and cons and I didn't see any point in switching and on top of that Cablevision gave me a pretty good discount for being a loyal customer. Now, that OOL has started messing with BOOST too my only hope is DOCSIS 3.0 as I'll be stuck with it for almost 2 years) :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20382149 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:14:23 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20381960 INT0CABLE : my upload is fine on boost .. they are throttling on the download side. my download hovers around 100-300 kb/s. when i could easily reach 3.00mB/s]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20381960 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:38:08 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20381910 blanka2k2 : Pretty much self explanatory... I have been one of the many users that were sharing the info with Azureus through the network plugin.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20381910 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:28:24 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20381604 amdmaxx : Get FIOS 20/20.. Your bittorrents will fly.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20381604 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:25:44 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20380827 anon : what a rip off. Optonline used to throttle upload on regular service. I have upgraded to BOOST to be left alone. Now they are doing this. What's the point of extra money for boost now,
I don't need all that speed if I can't use it anyway.

Yes I'm on boost and uploads been 5-10Kb/s for weeks now.
wish FIOS gets into NYC already to give OOL kick in the pants]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20380827 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:16:51 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20380662 Dasmoover : This is absolute bullshit. This isn't what I payed for.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20380662 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:45:56 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20380005 Alcohol :

said by JDCMAN

:

I'm non boost. I'm guessing BOOST users are having similar issues?

Correct. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20380005 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:51:40 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379961 JDCMAN : It's saying no cap imposed on the second, but I can't exceed 200KBPs on a torrent with 700 seeds (Ubuntu Linux- I seeded x32, I then killed that and started the x64 version). They must be capping somehow.

The boxes are going up for FiOS on my nearby poles...if CV doesn't cut this crap, I'll definitely switch.

I'm non boost. I'm guessing BOOST users are having similar issues?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379961 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:43:59 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379847 blanka2k2 :

said by JDCMAN

:

I'm having no issues uploading, just downloading- it refuses to let me max out my connection on Bittorrent despite thousands of peers . (no, I'm not downloading other stuff while running these tests). It maxes out at about 200KB/s (1.4mbps) on any combination of torrents (200KB/s down, 200KB/s up).

Anyhow, the image from before:
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7815/testmh6.png

The site is far from being right. I just ran a test and it said that none of my traffic is being throttled, somehow I am finding that hard to believe. My downloads are still barely reaching 200 and uploads are steady at around 5 - 20 ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379847 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:22:05 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379840 Alcohol : When i ran the test last night i got all green. I'll run it again when i get home but i suggest you try running the full (7 min) test again. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379840 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:21:28 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379802 JDCMAN : I'm having no issues uploading, just downloading- it refuses to let me max out my connection on Bittorrent despite thousands of peers . (no, I'm not downloading other stuff while running these tests). It maxes out at about 200KB/s (1.4mbps) on any combination of torrents (200KB/s down, 200KB/s up).

Anyhow, the image from before:
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7815/testmh6.png]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379802 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:16:12 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379765 Alcohol : Something is definitely going on. Notice the noticeable drop in upload speed.
--
I found the key to success but somebody changed the lock.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379765 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:10:44 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379650 JDCMAN : I paused my Bittorrent client (uTorrent) before running the test and, to be sure, temporarily blocked uTorrent from network access with ZoneAlarm (Java had full access to run the test, and OOLs speedtest ran at full speed before the test).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379650 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:49:15 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379645 anon : they are throttling big time, i'm so pissed]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379645 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:48:48 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379640 Thinkdiff : Did you run the test while you were uploading Ubuntu or downloading something else?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379640 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:47:47 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379553 JDCMAN : I'm seeding my Ubuntu x86 8.04 torrent now, and my upload is maxed out. I see a lot of Optonline IPs, which are naturally getting the best upload rate.

EDIT: Maybe they were having a router issue. I'm uploading at 100KB/S+ to an Telecom Italia peer now...

EDIT 2:

Is TCP traffic on a well-known BitTorrent port (6881) throttled?

* Your ISP possibly rate limits all downloads at port 6881. In our test, a TCP download on a BitTorrent port achieved at least 98 Kbps while a TCP download on a non-BitTorrent port achieved at least 213 Kbps. You can find details here.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20379553 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:34:10 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20378883 Alcohol : As i said in the other thread, i tried the test used to check if your connection is throttled and my connection shows up clean.

»broadband.mpi-sws.mpg.de/transpa···est.php?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20378883 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:19:04 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20378810 tooch : I haven't reset my modem yet and I still have the upload problem too (as well as the inconsistent download speeds). What's the deal?

Edit: Apparently the speeds are back to normal (uploading at 400KB/s), though there's still some wildly varying speed results.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20378810 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:01:34 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20378784 Alcohol : I also noticed that i wasn't throttled until i reset my modem to get the new upload speeds.

Greed got to us all. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20378784 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:55:13 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20378701 JDCMAN : I think I jinxed myself. I rebooted to get the new DOCSIS profile, and despite 11 seeds and 73 peers connected (hundreds more) on the new Hardy Heron torrent, I can't exceed 190 KiloBytes per second. I'm not using the connection for anything else, so...I think I'm being throttled. I'll have to get that plugin to take data. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20378701 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:40:51 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20377756 JDCMAN : I downloaded Ubuntu Linux a couple of weeks ago and I could consistently download non-boost at 1.2 megabytes per second.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20377756 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:04:08 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20377685 NYDude25 : Installed the plug in a few weeks ago, and I've noticed that I average around 15-20% reset level.

The issue with torrents dropping down to zero and then continuing started a few months ago, so maybe Azureus is onto something here with this RST stuff.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20377685 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:38:58 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20370592 Omego2K : use protocol encryption and you'll be fine. I used to have the same issues(disconnects while using torrents) when I turned on protocol encryption it worked like a charm.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20370592 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:34:40 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20367401 tg1 : Has anyone tried the azureus plugin yet though?
(btw i enjoy using news but bt is a back up for me)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20367401 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:42:50 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20366572 Yaveo : When I use my bittorent the vast majority of my connections are encrypted, so even if they are throttling our connections, I doubt it works on encrypted transfers because I've uploaded at 4-5 megabits/s often without problems.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20366572 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:43:23 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20365502 blanka2k2 : The thing is, although not new, this issue has gone away until just a few weeks ago when I first posted that I was having this issue (a little further up this thread). So I guess OOL decided to give it a round 2, sort of speak.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20365502 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:32:14 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20365423 MxxCon : exactly what i reported 3 years ago »Re: Why Is OOL Selectively Blocking Bit Torrent Pa]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20365423 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:16:30 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20364852 FullSpeed : I knew something was going on cuz even after getting a new modem I am still getting disconnected, speed going down to 0 all of a sudden etc. One more thing that I have observed is that almost all the disconnects/slowdowns etc. happen only to the most frequently visited/used torrent site/tracker. Seems like they're using something sophisticated to even keep track of what torrent site you visit the most :o Seems like we'll have to diversify the list of Linux torrent sites we visit :p :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20364852 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:29:14 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20364806 Alcohol :

quote:
The Azureus team has sent a letter to Cablevision, Cogeco, BellSouth and AOL, where they request that the companies are open about their BitTorrent throttling practices.

Yeah.. Good luck with that.. :hmm: ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20364806 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:20:32 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20364491 LLivingLarge : Here's some new data on Cablevision's reset rate.

»torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-thro···-080421/
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said by Dread

:

If you actually used usenet you wouldn't even bother with the garbage that is bittorent

Apples and oranges.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20361514 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:53:37 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20361128 Dread :

said by INT0CABLE

:

its about the sites you browse thats how bittorrent works.
scenetorrents.org and feedthe.net i wouldnt trade these 2 for free subscription to newshosting. anyways that another subject talk.

If you actually used usenet you wouldn't even bother with the garbage that is bittorent
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Spread the joy of herpes]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20361128 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 00:41:54 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20360685 INT0CABLE : its about the sites you browse thats how bittorrent works.
scenetorrents.org and feedthe.net i wouldnt trade these 2 for free subscription to newshosting. anyways that another subject talk. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20360685 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:32:26 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20360563 Dread :

said by INT0CABLE

:

well the optimum assholes are unto something again. they are fucking with my torrent download speeds.

i easily reach 3mb/s on utorrent now the speeds start fast then hover around 200-600 kb/s until download finishes. thats a pain for movies dvdrips that are 1.38gb

1) You are a using a shitty protocol like bittorent which slows you down so you can share when you are at 90% done, it's how bittorent works, If you can't stand it then get a real usenet provider and stop crying when ool has nothing to do with it.

2)Lol at bittorent
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Spread the joy of herpes]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20360563 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:07:19 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20360532 INT0CABLE : well the optimum assholes are unto something again. they are fucking with my torrent download speeds.

i easily reach 3mb/s on utorrent now the speeds start fast then hover around 200-600 kb/s until download finishes. thats a pain for movies dvdrips that are 1.38gb]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20360532 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:00:42 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20360023 destinz1 :

said by MxxCon

said by Khronos247

said by Dasmoover

:

How did you filter it?

Not to mention it won't help ya one iota. OOL isn't resetting RST's anymore (though this didn't really work when they were) -- now, instead of dropping connections, what you'll see with each connection made is an initial spike in d/l and u/l speeds, then after 15-30 seconds they'll drop down to a snail's pace. Sucks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20360023 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:58:03 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20359805 anon : I had thought my torrent uploads were kinda slow,but getting near 600 kB/s now]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20359805 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:04:03 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20359059 MxxCon :

said by Khronos247

said by Dasmoover

:

How did you filter it?

THIS IS A HORRIBLE THING TO DO!
you are ignoring ALL RST packets incoming to your bittorent ports, valid and invalid. what you'll send up with is HUGE number of hanging connections and needlessly flooding remote hosts that already closed connection to you.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20359059 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:34:21 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20358372 ViCyniC : Just switched over to OOL from Verizon, and my torrent speeds have decreased drastically. Gotta find a solution somehow.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20358372 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:21:38 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20348385 Bobcat : nm]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20348385 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:02:38 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20347599 anon : That doesn't work.. I've tried doing that on both xp and vista]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20347599 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:16:37 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20347013 Khronos247 :

said by Dasmoover

:

How did you filter it?

Details on using WIPFW to filter RST packets can be found here. If you don't understand these particular instructions than search around for other tutorials on setting this up. I have found that peerguardian2 will not work with WIPFW enabled so you will have to use an integrated ipfilter in your torrent client.

»wakarimasu.googlepages.com/windows]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20347013 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:37:54 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20341927 majortom1029 : Are you guys sure this isnt from the opposite end? Remember comcast has been in the news lately for doing this so if alot of bit torrent users are on comcast it might seem like cablevision is doing it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20341927 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:59:56 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20341400 Dasmoover : How did you filter it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20341400 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 00:31:23 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20340631 anon : I am in Westbury, NY and for the past 3 months have had to use a firewall to filter the RST packets from optimum. My torrent client was regularly having a difficult time connecting to to trackers. Once I started filtering the RST packets my problems have resolved. I can seed with no probs and I achieve upload rates of 300-500kB/s. So in my experience optimum is still using sandvine.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20340631 Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:53:00 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20339782 ako23 : I've also begun having this issue. Upload and download speed have both been affected, more so upload. Certainly a drastic change.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20339782 Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:06:26 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20336162 MxxCon : if you are being a troll, go away
if you really don't know, read »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_(protocol)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20336162 Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:58:51 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20330569 Unwinder : What are these torrents??]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20330569 Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:56:33 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20330143 serge666 : They do throttle port 6887 upload speed. Just change the port number in your torrent client. If you need to download a file from Blizzard then use the WoW Torrent Extractor program to extract the torrent file from the Blizzard downloader and run the torrent file in your client.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20330143 Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:47:36 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20328328 MxxCon : switch back to azureus and install this plugin
»azureus.sourceforge.net/plugin_d···aznetmon
what's your RST % at?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20328328 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:08:21 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20327501 anon : I believe my traffic has been shaped for at least six months. I used to max out on u/l with torrents. Now I get pretty good speeds while still leeching, but once the download finishes, the u/l crawls. It's hell on my ratios on private trackers. Switching from Azureus to uTorrent helped a bit, but it's still hard to seed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20327501 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 14:28:24 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20293820 Dread : I upload a lot, I have never been throttled
last month I uploaded may over 231gb's
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Spread the joy of herpes]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20293820 Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:47:29 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20293305 Alcohol :

said by Somatica :

I have no idea how the hell you can upload so much.. Are you telling your torrent speeds haven't been affected as of yet?

No they have not. Still maxing out my upload (550-600 kB/s)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20293305 Sun, 06 Apr 2008 18:56:42 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20292993 anon : What VPN are you using.. How fast are speeds? Is there a bandwidth limit?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20292993 Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:47:40 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20292861 anon : I have no idea how the hell you can upload so much.. Are you telling your torrent speeds haven't been affected as of yet?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20292861 Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:13:51 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20292802 anon : I AM HAVING THE SAME EXACT PROBLEM. THIS JUST STARTED.
I get good speed, then the speed drops.. The peer stays connected according to utorrent. but no data is sent.. My download speed is horrible on all torrents.. Sometimes very rarely I get a constant connection to a peer. I have tried using deluge and a proxy to connect, which worked before when I needed to upload, otherwise peers would disconnect.. Maybe this is punishment for trying to get around their peer disconnect thing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20292802 Sun, 06 Apr 2008 16:56:13 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20289455 blanka2k2 :

said by destinz1

:

Something has changed in the past day or so. RST's aren't being reset anymore. Instead, u/l and d/l speeds have horribly declined. It's hard to notice on torrents with a bunch (100+) of peers, but when there's 10-15 (or so) peers, it's like watching grass grow. Like before, though, if I sign on to my VPN, my speeds instantly go way up on that same torrent.

Exactly what I am facing right now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20289455 Sat, 05 Apr 2008 21:13:40 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20287794 Alcohol :

said by MxxCon

said by Alcohol

:

So they choose to throttle some users and leave others? :uhh:

my statement have been perfectly clear.

Negative. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20287794 Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:09:32 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20287742 MxxCon :

said by Alcohol

:

So they choose to throttle some users and leave others? :uhh:

my statement have been perfectly clear. i don't need to explain what i said any further. if you think otherwise, it means you don't know what you are talking about.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20287742 Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:57:12 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20286095 destinz1 : Something has changed in the past day or so. RST's aren't being reset anymore. Instead, u/l and d/l speeds have horribly declined. It's hard to notice on torrents with a bunch (100+) of peers, but when there's 10-15 (or so) peers, it's like watching grass grow. Like before, though, if I sign on to my VPN, my speeds instantly go way up on that same torrent.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20286095 Sat, 05 Apr 2008 02:42:30 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20286032 Sam2723 : if you are deemed a threat to the network due to hacking, spamming, uploading copyrighted material, or serious trojan activity... then yes, you will be throttled and/or bricked.

but you've got to think of it in terms of speeding on a highway. sure, people get caught, but not everybody does.

I've only really seen ten or twelve of these situations since I started in October... the bricking/throttling is to get your attention, it's like a warning shot.

All ISP's do it to some extent, I remember when I lived in Albany NY my mother got throttled for having some serious trojan virus issues.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20286032 Sat, 05 Apr 2008 01:59:35 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20284593 Alcohol :

said by MxxCon

:

"I never experienced" is a HUGE difference from "They have never". Your original statement is plain wrong.

So they choose to throttle some users and leave others? :uhh: ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20284593 Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:14:42 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20284287 Sam2723 : OOL doesn't blanket throttle.
But our network security team will throttle uploads if asked by RIAA/MPAA. It's more of a liability issue than anything.

The same thing happens if you've got an out of control trojan. Network security bricks your modem.

We block ports that are generally huge holes in network integrity. 80, 8080, 25, Squid, UDP 1080, etc.
This decreases hacking, spamming, and the like.

That's how the Quality of Service team tracks bad stuff coming from your computer.

I'm not saying that OOL will throttle your uploads just because you were torrenting. I'm saying that you not only get an email from the QOS team, your modem gets walled and you get a nice page explaining that in order to reactivate your service you need to call us.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20284287 Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:13:13 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20279145 MxxCon :

said by Alcohol

said by MxxCon

said by Alcohol

:

They have never restricted torrent uploading in any sort of way.

I never experienced any problems with high amounts of uploading in the years of using OOL.

"I never experienced" is a HUGE difference from "They have never". Your original statement is plain wrong.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20279145 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:14:52 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20278288 La Luna :

said by Sam2723

:

My good sir I refer you to the wonderful copyright infringement email as well as the Walled Garden page.

Had an incident where a woman with an unsecured wireless network was walled.

Her router's IP was tracked uploading CRYSIS or whatever that game is.

Security team got an email, subscriber got throttled.

"Had an incident....."? WHO "had an incident"?

What about non copyright file uploading? Do they "throttle" that too?

What you are talking about has NOTHING to do with OOL, it has to do with someone getting tagged via their torrent program by the RIAA/MPAA (who sets up bogus files), who then requires that the ISP sends the "letter", which can be ignored if the infringement is stopped. Please stop spreading FUD claiming that OOL blanket "throttles" of their own accord.

To the OP....OOL/BOOST does NOT "cap" or "throttle" and hasn't for years. Whether you will get tagged for copyright infringement via other ways is unknown and has nothing to do with OOL.

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I have yet to be throttled and I use Usenet at the same time as using torrents for obscure stuff.
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Had an incident where a woman with an unsecured wireless network was walled.

Her router's IP was tracked uploading CRYSIS or whatever that game is.

Security team got an email, subscriber got throttled.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20276790 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:17:54 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20276749 Alcohol :

said by Sam2723

:

However, you will get throttled or walled if the MPAA finds out you're stealing stuff and contacts your ISP.

No you won't. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20276749 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:09:56 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20276745 Attack Gypsy : I didn't start with Cablevision until September of 2006.

I remember that the main reason for people being capped was because of torrents, and that people who said they weren't d/l'ing were probably lying.

I'm glad they stopped capping people. It always seemed kinda stupid to me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20276745 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:09:30 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20276744 Alcohol :

said by MxxCon

said by Alcohol

:

They have never restricted torrent uploading in any sort of way.

I never experienced any problems with high amounts of uploading in the years of using OOL. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20276744 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:09:28 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20275951 MxxCon :

said by Alcohol

:

They have never restricted torrent uploading in any sort of way.

not true.
Back in 2005 OOL was doing the same thing that Comcast is doing now. read »Re: Why Is OOL Selectively Blocking Bit Torrent Pa and how this problem was solved »Good news and »more good news for us and »Re: Why Is OOL Selectively Blocking Bit Torrent Pa]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20275951 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:43:19 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20274597 anon : OOL security team doesn't regulate torrents.

However, you will get throttled or walled if the MPAA finds out you're stealing stuff and contacts your ISP.

If you've ever played around with a bittorent client you'll notice that you can cap your upload speed. This means that even if you have 10 seeders and one leecher speeds can still suck.

Bypassing a router is always an option, and d/l torrents is always dependent upon whoever is uploading it.

Upload speeds are universally slower than d/l speeds.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20274597 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 04:09:47 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20272533 blanka2k2 : This might be a coincidence that this topic was posted around this time, but I think my OOL is being shaped in terms of torrent DL's and UL's. For the first 10 seconds or so when the torrent just starts it reaches full speed around 1500 kB/s but after that the download speed goes to about 90 - 200 kB/s in a matter of seconds and remains steady at that. Mind you Upload speed remains consistently at about 1 - 5 kB/s. I have not changed anything at all, this problem just started maybe 3 - 4 days ago. Thought it was just a "bug" going around but its staying consistent so far. Anyone else having the same issues? By the way, I do have a router but I tried d/c it and still same problem. I have not changed my setup at all from when it was working normally up until this point. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20272533 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:09:47 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20272511 sandman9r : OOL has really progressed.

I remember being reprimanded by a tech in December 2004 when I uploaded lots of data to a backup server. I had to acknowledge that I wouldn't do it again like I was a second grader. The entire process made you feel like dirt.

But that's all gone now. You're the first to mention cap in a very long time.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20272511 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:05:43 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20272192 Thinkdiff : OOL never regulated torrents exclusively. There had been reports of traffic shaping, but I never had any issues and the "evidence" was inconclusive imo.

OOL used to cap users that would upload at high speeds for prolonged periods of time. This was over any protocol, not just torrents. They no longer do that.

You can upload all you want on OOL now. Hopefully it will stay like that.
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said by potbellypig

:

So there is no problem seeding public torrents? I am not talking about stuff like copyrighted movies. I saw in some places that OOL interferes with connecting as a seed and causes frequent disconnects and caps. I looked at this link and it worried me. There is also some mention of the same on the Optimum Online Wiki Page.

»www.encyclocentral.com/18563-Opt···and.html

That's old news. Ever since Boost went to 5 Mb/s upload (close to 2 years ago?) there have been no reports of capping on regular OOL or Boost.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20271823 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:57:38 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20271811 potbellypig : So there is no problem seeding public torrents? I am not talking about stuff like copyrighted movies. I saw in some places that OOL interferes with connecting as a seed and causes frequent disconnects and caps. I looked at this link and it worried me. There is also some mention of the same on the Optimum Online Wiki Page.

»www.encyclocentral.com/18563-Opt···and.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20271811 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:54:56 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20271056 Alcohol : They have never restricted torrent uploading in any sort of way.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20271056 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:36:41 EDT Re: [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20270781 xirian : I have been uploading non stop for months and have not been capped.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20270781 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:39:04 EDT [OOL] [OOL] Does Optimum Online still regulate torrents? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20270700 potbellypig : Hi, I did a search and found some posts about Cablevision regulating the upload speed of torrents. Is this still the case? Most of the posts state that if you seed alot, you would be capped. I would be interested in the 30/5 boost package but if they are going to play games with torrents then I'll stay with my current DSL albiet it is much skower. Thanks in advance for your advice. I am in the Bronxd, NY.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20270700 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:25:39 EDT