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JamesPC

join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA

reply to Rick

Re: Hmm...

I agree rick. Some of these people have nothing better to do than hate on something they done even understand.


cuda

@sbcglobal.net

reply to Thisisdigital
wrong, digital signals suffer from loss and deterioration. Noise interference also can cause loss of bits and will cause the error correcting software to have to re-stream data causing freezing while being rebuffered. Even through fiber there can be loss and noise caused by things such as reflection, refraction and certain types of frequency interference. Every time there is a splice in the fiber or a connector..etc, it does affect the data stream quality which can be degraded to the point that a digital amplifier can not repair it. When that happens... your screen will start dropping pieces of the image and cause a blocky effect until the error correction can re-buffer enough good data which is when you see a frozen image for a second or 2.



cuda

@sbcglobal.net

reply to en102
Hey now slow down.......

Don't put IPTV in the samebag. My Uverse image quality is fantastic. And the cable and telco iptv are not even in the same league.

I have went through (in over 30 years) DirecTV, WoW, Comcrap, Dish and local jimbob types... So far, nothing comes close to Uverse. Its absolutely the next best thing to FiOS.



en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

I didn't say the picture was any different, did I ?
I just stated the fact that Comcast Rick was making was a little off.
Satellite is used for most TV communication regardless.
Analog cable signal isn't worth much these days, nor have been the lower 69 channels, unless they are digital sourced.

I'd try IPTV, however, the nearest demo site is nearly 100 miles away, and still no VoIP here.
--
Canada = Hollywood North



tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

reply to Thisisdigital

said by Thisisdigital :

This is all digital, so what you're saying isn't correct. It shouldn't matter how many times the signal is split or anything like analog. Either the signal is there, or it is not. I find is laughable that people go out and buy Monster brand HDMI over a cheaper HDMI cable... The signal is DIGITAL! As long as the signal gets there, you're gonna have an image!

You would be correct about the over compressed HD channels comcast is offering. They would still look better than SD to most people. Compared to OTHER HD from other providers, they're crap. There are two different issues going on here. There's the "this is good enough of a picture" issue, and then there's "How does this HD picture compared to a standard, reference HD picture." Two issues.
Ok.. read what CUDA said.. On top of that. I'm not buying into that "digital" theory your holding on to. That allows the provider to CRAM more crap onto existing coax. People think just because it's digital, your guaranteed the best picture no matter what. In a perfect lab. Yes. To someones house a few miles from the node, no. Digital from my 20+ years of communications experience just means using less bandwidth and putting more data on the same size pipe. Didn't make it any better, just more of it. Garbage in, Garbage out. The end result is only as good as the highway it's riding on. But now, that's just me and I don't have a degree in electrical engineering to back it up..


antwanp
Beyond FM, Beyond AM, XM Satellite Radio
Premium
join:2002-05-14
Cedar Hill, TX

reply to Alakar
Totally ignoring Rick, at our house we have 5 901's (4 surround, 1 centre) and a Harmon-Kardon subwoofer, connected to Bose's 901 sound equalizer and a Yamaha RX Series Pro Receiver. It really is possible, you just need the equalizer and subwoofer to get the quality sound. Bose is actually a decent system (if you can afford it).

-Antwan L.



Rick
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT

said by antwanp:

Totally ignoring Rick, at our house we have 5 901's (4 surround, 1 centre) and a Harmon-Kardon subwoofer, connected to Bose's 901 sound equalizer and a Yamaha RX Series Pro Receiver. It really is possible, you just need the equalizer and subwoofer to get the quality sound. Bose is actually a decent system (if you can afford it).

-Antwan L.
I love it when I'm totally ignored...but then the poster agrees wholeheartedly with me.

Sort of gives even more credibility to what I have to say.....dontcha think?

In any event, I'm also using essentially the same setup with a yamaha receiver, minus the subwoofer and I didn't go with the 5th 901 for the center speaker.

Like I said..it sounds awesome.
--
The Coyote captured the RR! Roadrunner Rick is now Comcastic!

bogey780

join:2004-03-19
Here
kudos:1

A 4 speaker set-up with no LFE isn't really all that awesome. You just have slightly more depth than a normal stereophonic system.


RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11

reply to Rick

said by Rick:

Sort of gives even more credibility to what I have to say.....dontcha think?
No.
--
Toolmaster of La Grange.


bludude

@verizon.net

reply to Rick
Well,

Ive been a television engineer for about 35 years and sat thru the transition from analog to digital and these guys are right about the nasty compression comcast uses just to try to appear to compete... they over charge and throttle data on their broadband connections as well and are not forthcoming about it to boot... you decide!

Perhaps you dont see the compression artifacts but they are there.....


Dilligas

join:2007-10-30
Windsor, ON

reply to Rick
Actually I am not defending comcast but the images presented looks like pixelization issue with signal and not the compression.

Honestly I see no diffference with comcast or any cable company for that matter along with the satellite...they all look relitively fine to me...plus the kiddies cant get over the fact coax works just as well, not every company can lose billions investing into a complete fiber network just so joe blow can sit 5 feet away from a tv set and compare pictures.


emptywig
Huh? What?
Premium
join:2002-08-05
Pasadena, TX

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reply to Rick
The only thing for which your experience is evidence is how the service is in your home. You cannot extrapolate your experience to Comcast markets across the country. I'd bet there's far less demand for HD in Waterbury than there is in more highly populated areas.

Please come to Houston and I will show you pictures that look every bit as pixelated as those in the news stories. I'll show them to you any day, every day. I'll take you next door to my neighbor who also gets the same crappy pixelation. And the folks who live behind me, and everyone on the block, and all over the city.

I'm happy you are getting a great picture, but your experience is not the same as everyone else.

wig
--
Please keep your f---ing religion to yourself.


emptywig
Huh? What?
Premium
join:2002-08-05
Pasadena, TX

reply to Thisisdigital
The same kind of signal goes in one end of that coax whether its "digital" or "analog."

wig
--
Please keep your f---ing religion to yourself.



weartherman

@comcast.net

reply to Thisisdigital
boy someone is stupid its the sheilding in the cable that can make a diffarnts if the signal is there yes it does matter how many times you split it and you will get the same quality pic weather you have dish or cable because either way you have to go through coax and dish usally uses the cable wiring anyways and if you have dish i hope its not down pooring if so just wait to see what happens to your pic now



tileguy
Premium
join:2007-08-09
Derry, NH

reply to RadioDoc
Ya.......... What RadioDoc said


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