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Cjaiceman
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join:2004-10-12
Castle Rock, WA
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Re: DOCSIS 3.0 "wideband" Service starting with Twin Cities

said by EG:

Are you using a flavor of Windows ?

Start >> Run >> type cmd into the Run (Open) box, then select O/K.

After the Command Window opens, type tracert XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX, then hit the Enter key.

X = the desired IP address, or the domain name.
example would be www.google.com or www.dslreports.com

EG
The wings of love
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EG

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said by Cjaiceman:

example would be www.google.com or www.dslreports.com


Now tell the poster how to copy/paste the results here

Cjaiceman
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Cjaiceman

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said by EG:

said by Cjaiceman:

example would be www.google.com or www.dslreports.com


Now tell the poster how to copy/paste the results here
Being lazy r we?

Ok, so after you have run the trace route, you then left click on the icon of the command prompt in the top left corner of the screen. A drop down menu should come up, from there go to edit, then click on mark. This will allow you to select the text in the command prompt you want. So, click and HOLD while dragging it across the text you would like to copy into your post. This may take a time or two to get it right. Once you have that done, then press and hold 'Ctrl', while holding 'Ctrl' press C, release both. This will copy the text. From here you can write your post, then when ready you can use 'Ctrl' and V. This will paste your trace route that you have copied. Then post!

Don't we all feel better now?

EG
The wings of love
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EG

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There are variations on the method, but that'll work

Now tell them how to embed the results...

awdaw
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YAY we final caught up to Scandinavia and Korea, with our amazing 50/5 service, oh no nm, Scandinavia now has 100mb connections and better, welcome to 2008

tshirt
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said by awdaw :

Scandinavia now has 100mb connections and better, welcome to 2008
They also pay 50% or more of their income as taxes, part of which subsidize this service WITHIN limited areas.
I would bet that 100mb service is available to a greater number of people in limited areas in this country, however the individual user has to pay the full (or a higher % of it) cost directly, so very few choose that level of service.
monkeytap
join:2008-04-16
Saint Paul, MN

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No problem doing the trace from work, but when I tried it at home on my dell (with vista) it was timing out. explanations?
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p.s. my work wouldn't be upset for posting a trace route from their computer would they? maybe I should blot some of that out.

jsc
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They might have preferred you not post the internal IP's, if nothing else.

What's interesting is the hop where the latency goes from 1 to 89ms. Must be jumping across the country somewhere? Medtronic has several very large facilities in MN, I am a little surprised they privately backhaul their internet access so far away before it goes onto a public backbone...

/jsc

McLovin
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That, or the link is saturated.
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said by monkeytap:

p.s. my work wouldn't be upset for posting a trace route from their computer would they? maybe I should blot some of that out.
It is all in private address space. Can't be accessed from the public anyway. Only exception would be the medtronic address.
MikeWolf9
join:2008-04-19
Beachwood, NJ

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I need to wonder, Regarding the current DOCSIS 2.0 modems already on the market, will they be upgradable to DOCSIS 3.0 like older modems were from DOCSIS 1.1 to DOCSIS 2.0 ? Because otherwise the $80 i spent on my new modem will be a waste.

CableTool
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Youll need an entirely new modem. And $80.00 for a modem you can rent for 3.00 a month that is usually outdated in a year already was a waste.
monkeytap
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Saint Paul, MN

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yeah, I don't know which of those are internal IPs, I assume the 1 ms entries. If nothing bad can happen, I am not worried about.

when you say "link is saturated" what do you mean? I work at one of these large facilites, would a lot of network traffic be 'saturatation'?

any ideas why when I tried the trace route on my vista machine I was getting 'timed out'? I only attempted once cause it was late when I got home and checked the forum. I can try again tonight, but I am at a loss

SpaethCo
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Forward and return routes are not necessarily symmetrical. It's very possible for large corporations to have traffic egress out onto the Internet in one state and return from another. You can see the same thing on Comcast's network.

Egress jumps onto Level(3) in Chicago:
traceroute to www.tailormadeservers.com (72.9.144.30), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  leviathan (192.168.0.1)  0.162 ms  0.258 ms  0.256 ms
 2  * * *
 3  68.85.165.181 (68.85.165.181)  15.157 ms * *
 4  te-8-3-ur01.brooklynpark.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.87.174.25)  15.036 ms * *
 5  * * *
 6  te-0-2-0-5-cr01.chicago.il.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.91.141)  25.491 ms  25.222 ms  25.212 ms
 7  xe-9-3-0.edge1.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.71.248.21)  115.108 ms  100.574 ms  100.476 ms
 8  ae-32-56.ebr2.Chicago1.Level3.net (4.68.101.190)  16.759 ms  20.259 ms  35.278 ms
 9  ae-78.ebr3.Chicago1.Level3.net (4.69.134.62)  16.832 ms  29.688 ms  17.295 ms
10  ae-3.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net (4.69.132.61)  34.831 ms  38.223 ms  38.626 ms
11  ae-1-100.ebr1.Denver1.Level3.net (4.69.132.37)  39.123 ms  39.035 ms  37.783 ms
12  ae-2.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.132.106)  57.949 ms * *
13  ae-82-82.csw3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.136.146)  57.857 ms  54.451 ms  54.443 ms
14  ae-31-89.car1.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.68.19.131)  47.944 ms  48.628 ms  48.194 ms
15  COLO4-DALLA.car1.Dallas1.Level3.net (8.9.232.74)  51.569 ms  48.149 ms  47.675 ms
16  72.249.0.66 (72.249.0.66)  47.937 ms  48.697 ms  48.187 ms
17  tailormadeservers.com (72.9.144.30)  49.031 ms  47.771 ms  48.095 ms
 

Return traffic jumps on Comcast's network in TX.

traceroute to leviathan (76.113.x.x), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  72.9.146.1.tailormadeservers.com (72.9.146.1)  0.219 ms  0.285 ms  0.347 ms
 2  72.249.0.65 (72.249.0.65)  0.292 ms  0.362 ms  0.421 ms
 3  ge-6-18.car1.Dallas1.Level3.net (8.9.232.73)  0.655 ms  0.713 ms  0.780 ms
 4  ae-3-89.edge3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.68.19.136)  0.802 ms  0.799 ms  0.791 ms
 5  pos-0-6-0-0-cr01.dallas.tx.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.85.174)  1.652 ms  1.663 ms *
 6  te-0-0-0-5-cr01.omaha.ne.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.91.153)  16.793 ms  16.345 ms  16.517 ms
 7  te-9-4-ar02.roseville.mn.minn.comcast.net (68.86.91.154)  33.968 ms  33.926 ms *
 8  68.87.174.21 (68.87.174.21)  42.322 ms  42.097 ms  42.365 ms
 9  68.87.174.22 (68.87.174.22)  42.105 ms * *
10  68.85.165.178 (68.85.165.178)  42.706 ms  42.198 ms  42.173 ms
11  c-76-113-x-x.hsd1.mn.comcast.net (76.113.x.x)  47.985 ms  51.940 ms  56.424 ms
 
SpaethCo

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said by monkeytap:

yeah, I don't know which of those are internal IPs, I assume the 1 ms entries. If nothing bad can happen, I am not worried about.
I would recommend you take down that trace.

1) it really provides no information of value in the discussion of Comcast services

2) Medtronic's Information Risk Management (IRM) department would definitely take issue with you posting it.

Cjaiceman
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Does anyone have any ideas of when Comcast will start rolling this to other cities? I know that the end of the year is still a ways out, but I would like to see other cities start to get it as well.
monkeytap
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done, thanks.

sooo....I tried doing the traceroute from my dell with no success. it just says request timed out, after a few asterisks.
MikeWolf9
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Beachwood, NJ

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I was having issues with major loss of speed, bleh bleh, its explained elsewhere on the forum. Long story short, the tech who came out told me that the modem i got from Comcast, an RCA 425 model was refurbished and that was the cause. He told me to go out and buy my own, so I did. With rebates it came out to be like $40. I'm really suprised that it cant be firmware upgraded. Its a Linksys CM100.

mike12806
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Probably already did this, but have you disabled any firewall that might be blocking outbound ICMP? Norton 360 I know disables it by default...

EG
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said by MikeWolf9:

I'm really suprised that it cant be firmware upgraded. Its a Linksys CM100.
Why do you think that ?

Maybe not by the end user, but a firmware load should be able to be pushed by the I.S.P.

That's a fairly new modem so CC may not have any newer version available as of yet.
MikeWolf9
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yes but Comcast itself said that its not "Supported" on their site since its not on the list »media2.comcast.net/anon. ··· ist1.htm, but when I spoke to a tech via their chat, he said that any modem would work. I'm hoping that Linksys does release a firmware update for the CM100 to give to Comcast if or when DOCSIS 3.0 rolls out by me. I really would perfer to have this modem longer then 3 years before its outdated.

Comcast originally had me setup for the wrong tier, so I was getting the slower speeds. When I setup the modem the first time, they just asked for the MAC address, but when I called in to check the services, they asked for both the MAC address and the modems Serial number as well. I wonder if they have the right config file for my model. They knew it was a Linksys, but never said the model number.

EG
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said by MikeWolf9:

I'm hoping that Linksys does release a firmware update for the CM100 to give to Comcast if or when DOCSIS 3.0 rolls out by me. I really would perfer to have this modem longer then 3 years before its outdated.
If 3.0 is implemented in your area, I'm afraid that your going to need a whole new modem if you want to take advantage of what 3.0 offers.

That modem will be backwards compatible however, and will still function the way it does now.
MikeWolf9
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oh poo well thanks for the info
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I have a Linksys WRT54G v8 with the 240Mhz processor. I was wondering if the WAN is limited like you said the older versions are, since the site you linked to only goes up to version 5. Also what about the Linksys WRH54G 1.0 version, is that WAN limited as well to 35Mbps?
impulse101
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Re: wideband coming to twin cities this week

"Well I spoke to an insider they said that they are still working on 25meg but wanted to get 50 out the door sooner so right now they are pushing 50. Still going to be interesting by the end of the year!"

Im getting 16/2 now with powerboost up to 32/3 so why would I pay to go to 25/x, unless it was only $5 more like around $64 then forget it, a 30/4 for $75 or less I'd consider.

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said by impulse101:

"Well I spoke to an insider they said that they are still working on 25meg but wanted to get 50 out the door sooner so right now they are pushing 50. Still going to be interesting by the end of the year!"

Im getting 16/2 now with powerboost up to 32/3 so why would I pay to go to 25/x, unless it was only $5 more like around $64 then forget it, a 30/4 for $75 or less I'd consider.
there is a huge difference between the powerboost, as that is a BOOST for a few seconds, as that is what I have seen from it, starts off in the 2MB download a second, then drops to 800kb or so consistantly.

this is a more concurrent connection from the sounds of it....my only question is if they have a cap on how much you DL a month, day, or week.

pipdipchip
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Re: DOCSIS 3.0 "wideband" Service starting with Twin Cities

said by MikeWolf9:

I have a Linksys WRT54G v8 with the 240Mhz processor. I was wondering if the WAN is limited like you said the older versions are, since the site you linked to only goes up to version 5. Also what about the Linksys WRH54G 1.0 version, is that WAN limited as well to 35Mbps?
I'm not 100% sure. I do know that originally the problem was with 200Mhz processors. The extra 40Mhz will help, I'm just not sure how much. It was also reported over clocking helps. You can always hopefully over clock up to the point of your connection speed.

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I don't understand..they released a 50mb tier, but are still working on a 25mb tier? lol wtf?
Der_Idiot
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Install sched for 5/7 Can't wait.