http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20273096 en Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:36:10 EDT Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:36:10 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20521499 Splitpair : ISDN provides 3 digital channels 2 64Kb bearer channels known as the B channels and a 16Kb D channel which is used to communicate with the switch to setup and tear down the B channels.

You can run a combination of voice and/or data using one B for each or bond the B's for a 128Kb data pipe or two voice channels with no data.

In order to utilize the service you will need to obtain a basic rate ISDN modem aka. a terminal adapter.

Any other questions? Just ask.

Wayne
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20521499 Thu, 22 May 2008 01:37:45 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20368118 dnoyeB : one of the most important parts of ISDN is the TA you choose. Most of the features are TA dependent. There are 2 64K channels and 1 negotiating channel or something that can also pass data for a total of perhaps 132K. Its a digital connection so it does "dial" but the connection is instant.

ISDN technology is essentially the same as DSL. I am surprised they will offer ISDN but not DSL. Even if its dog slow DSL.

ISDN is same speed up and down. You get 2 phone lines with it typically with all calling features.

Last time I had it, the ISP only cost me $15 per month. It was the same price as dialup. NOt sure what they are trying to squeeze out of you these days. I think there is a national network of ISDN TAs you can dial into because when I would change from 1 ISP to another, sometimes the phone numbers would end up being the same, but just a different log in id. Its very much like dialup in that respect.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20368118 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:53:59 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20306947 roozy : Mark and fozngoof seem to have most of it covered....

one addition. You may also be able to absorb some of the cost by dropping your current landline (if you have one) and using one of the ISDN channels for that service. That lowers your ISDN data to 64K during phone use if that is ok with you. I'm not sure about the setup involved for use as phone and data. I only install them to the demarc.

Definitely check out the cell service first.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20306947 Wed, 09 Apr 2008 09:00:23 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20296758 mark42 : What fozngoof said is true. ISDN is like dial up where you need a modem and an internet provider, but you also need a special dedicated phone line from you house to the switching station with no one else on it. Thats why they charge so much to set it up. My tel-co dropped the $200 setup fee for a two year use agreement. And that special line will actually have two phone numbers (spids) that allows the modem to connect "dual channel", each channel runs at 64K digital (not analog like regular dial up). Together the two channels give you 128K digital. With switches, connections, servers, etc expect a real world through put of about 115 - 120K. Consistant, upload and download. I payed about $70/mo for the ISDN phone service from local phone company. I went through the Small Business office and they knew how to handle ISDN.

The Terminal Adapter/Modem that seems to be the most bullet proof is the Cisco 804 ISDN Router. Look on ebay, they sell cheap $10 and up. Be sure you get one with the power supply. I suggest you buy one of the "new in box" setups where ALL the cables are there, and the manuals.

Also, check this website because people here are always selling off their old IDSN equipment.

You will need an ISP, I suggest LocalNet because I used them for two years without a glitch. For $10/mo they gave me unlimited dual channel ISDN service. Not all providers, and not all LocalNet offices/servers have the capacity for dual channel connection. So it is hit or miss with providers. With Localnet I had 3 local numbers to call for dual channel service where I live.

Its a bit of a pain to get set up, but once your on, it works very well.

Now, there is another option that you should look into before getting ISDN: Mobile Broadband. Check out Sprint and Verizon coverage maps and see if you are in their area. I dropped my ISDN service for Sprint Mobile Broadband. I get a consitent 1200mbps down and 600kbps upload and ping times from 70 to 110. And I'm 5 miles from a cell tower. Just something to think about. Check out the mobile broadband forums here.
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Check and see what their unlimited plan is, you may have to switch over to business class.

The setup price sounds about right, although it is a rip off IMHO.

You will need a Terminal Adapter (TA) and/or a router modem.

You will also need an ISP, the ISDN line cost does not include access to the internet. For reliability I would suggest finding a local ISP that supports ISDN. Otherwise, SBC/Yahoo or MSN might work for you. (it is hit and miss for most everyone.)

IF/WHEN you get ISDN working, it works excellent for most gaming. Not so well for downloading patches/maps. (128 is max)

Good luck

Foz]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20280338 Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:14:56 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20273096 anon : Hello Folks,
I retired a couple years ago and moved to the country..."GOD'S COUNTRY". Unfortunately, he forgot that one of my hobbies is flying with the 510th Buzzard Squadron in the WWII combat game..."Fighter Ace".

I have satellite internet which is no good for gaming and a speedy, 26kbps dialup that I use for gaming. It don't work worth a crap and I can't even use teamspeak when I'm flying with my Squad. As you can guess, nothing else is available except ISDN.

Until yesterday, I had never heard of ISDN, and after talking to the folks with AT&T (my phone company)I don't no much more today. I am really confused, they want to charge me $200 to run the ISDN to my house and charge $78 per month for 200 hours and they can't even tell me how to set everything up. They said that they didn't service the ISDN and I would need get an ISP that could support their ISDN.

Is there anyone out there that can put all this in perspective...you know, where folks like me can understand.

Thanks and have a great day!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20273096 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 21:41:41 EDT