 gentux join:2004-09-05 Natick, MA | reply to sporkme
Re: Vista and Mac lose over Linux in Hacking contest Would the Mac have won if the person at the Mac fired up Firefox instead of Safari? My understanding was that the mac lost in the stage before non default software was allowed so firefox could not have been fired up instead of safari. |
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 antiseriousThe Future ain't what it used to bePremium join:2001-12-12 Scranton, PA | That's correct, and Vista lasted so long, in part, because it was SP1 being tested (which is kind of what a service pack is supposed to do, among other things).
When you actually read the links provided, you pick up all sorts of interesting tidbits, but why spoil a good bash-fest with facts.
It might have been more relevant if each machine had survived the same number of attacks, or if some of the same exploits had been attempted against the applicable third-party software in each O/S. So personally I wouldn't say Linux won so much as Mac lost - big - but I do feel a little better about my choice of platform. The thread in the Security forum had some more links and commentary from the participants, worth reading.
fwiw
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 sporkmedrop the crantini and move it, sisterPremium,MVM join:2000-07-01 Morristown, NJ Reviews:
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| reply to gentux said by gentux:My understanding was that the mac lost in the stage before non default software was allowed so firefox could not have been fired up instead of safari. What is "the" default browser on "Linux"? What if the distro does not include a browser? Or what if it's lynx?  |
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 antiseriousThe Future ain't what it used to bePremium join:2001-12-12 Scranton, PA 1 edit | said by sporkme:What is "the" default browser on "Linux"? What if the distro does not include a browser? Or what if it's lynx? The target box - VAIO VGN-TZ37CN running Ubuntu 7.10 - which means they had their choice of Konqueror or Firefox, since it 'ships' with both.
In this case, for this particular contest, 'Linux' only applies to that combination - obviously they didn't test any other distro.
* edit - the other targets: Fujitsu U810 running Vista Ultimate SP1, MacBook Air running OSX 10.5.2
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 firephotoKDEPremium join:2003-03-18 Brewster, WA Reviews:
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| said by antiserious:The target box - VAIO VGN-TZ37CN running Ubuntu 7.10 - which means they had their choice of Konqueror or Firefox, since it 'ships' with both. In this case, for this particular contest, 'Linux' only applies to that combination - obviously they didn't test any other distro. * edit - the other targets: Fujitsu U810 running Vista Ultimate SP1, MacBook Air running OSX 10.5.2 Ubuntu has Firefox. Kubuntu has Konqueror.
Other ubuntus probably have Firefox as default.
all non default browsers are an optional install on all flavors.
Webkit based browsers or rendering engines are an option also.
No one really tried to hack the Ubuntu box so a wet paper sack could even survive that kind of abuse.  |
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 sporkmedrop the crantini and move it, sisterPremium,MVM join:2000-07-01 Morristown, NJ Reviews:
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| said by firephoto:Webkit based browsers or rendering engines are an option also. It would have been a hoot if the guy's Mac exploit was based on a WebKit flaw and he went and downed both boxes (Safari + Konq) in 15 minutes. |
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