patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| reply to N10Cities
Re: let's face it,
If the USF was updated to only pay for Fiber, 90% of rural areas will have in 10 years, since there will be no other way to earn money. It will be high density areas left without Fiber  . |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| reply to Telecom Vet
FIOS is a complete standard FOOL!
FIOS is Verizon's brand name for its offering of BPON . Everything in FIOS, all the plant, all the ONTs, and the ONUs, everything is off the shelf and standardized and has been used by many other [small/rural] American and foreign telephone companies. The closest FIOS comes to proprietary is the set top boxes for FIOS TV. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
 ·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| reply to Karl Bode
very true. the Ohio PUC just fined VZ not to long ago for not repairing copper lines like they should be. And I have family that live in MI (in VZ Land) they were without land line service for 10 days because VZ would not go to their house and fix the lines. They always would just call their number to see if it work. It rang and VZ put the ticket in as line fixed. But it wasnt.
VZ needs to get their act together and either start giving areas to other Telcos that can and want to support it. |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
Host:
Road Runner
PC gaming GAMES
PC gaming Tech
| reply to PDXPLT
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Well that's exactly what they've been doing already. Tauke, the Gov't Affairs VP, has been busy testifying in DC that gov't "assistance" will be necessary before VZ even considers deploying any broadband to areas where the ROI isn't as high as it is in the areas they've deployed to already ...
Yeah, they've started making a push for that money for a few years now. Given nobody has EVER bothered to effectively track where USF money goes or how it's spent, I'm sure they're jumping at the bit to get rolling.
Seriously, for those really interested in this issue from a humanistic perspective (and have seen it's not about partisan bickering), I advise you to keep a very close eye on this "Connected Nation" Movement. I strongly believe it's a monopoly lobbying effort dressed up as a deployment plan.
The real goal is to use taxpayer dollars to create an incumbent lobbying machine whose "deployment plan" pre-empts more effective & progressive plans, ensures incumbents are the only ones getting cash for such projects, while fudging the deployment numbers to make people think the problem is being addressed...
I've been digging into them for a while, and their numbers are painfully suspect. I really do think these folks may be cooking up the biggest scam ever perpetrated in the telecom sector.... |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
Host:
Road Runner
PC gaming GAMES
PC gaming Tech
| reply to patcat88
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"Fairpoint"ing is hard. States will be furious if they try to cut up operations inside the state. Counties and towns will go ballistic and there will be court cases over how Verizon decides which street will the border between Verizon and the Verizon offspring. If they try to draw lines around suburbs and farms in new/outer suburbs, they will be in a world of hurt.
They're doing that now, and who's complaining? Who's tracking it? We've tried to get at their deployment data and they treat it like national security. I've seen guys like Drew Clark try to get at it in court to no avail. Congress can't either.
Nobody is tracking where they're actually deploying this stuff (other than Comcast), so who's going to really bust them for redlining? Like with DSL in New England, they can sit in a perpetual state of "we're trying so hard" -- and who's going to step up and dispute that? |
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
| reply to funchords
said by funchords  :Do you have FIOS in Banks? Nope. And VZ has told the Washington Country franchise regulator that neither Banks nor North Plains will be getting it.
Not that I care: I just wish they'd deploy DSL everywhere they have the infrastructure to deploy it (i.e., where they have the fiber trunks, and the DSL-capable RT's). But it looks like they're not deploying DSL outside the Comcast footprint. |
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