Re: Someone at Google needs to put down the pipe. in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20281734 en Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:43:29 EDT Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:43:29 EDT Re: Someone at Google needs to put down the pipe. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20283521 Alphy : Chill out.

Where was any other company in this fight?

Where was Microsoft? Where was Apple? Both of which are sitting on mountains of cash.

Look, just because Google saw an opportunity to do a PR spin on this (which I agree with you, is all talk) doesn't make them the villain. They moved on some good publicity, with no intention of buying spectrum.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20283521 Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:37:11 EDT Re: Someone at Google needs to put down the pipe. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20283329 en102 : I hate spoilers in auctions.
Google went out there JUST to be a sh!t disturber, and raise the price on spectrum. Not like everything isn't expensive enough.
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They are in the advertising business. Never forget that.
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Especially that part about doing it to increase the money into the Treasury. What a pot of marketing diarrhea.
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If they wanted to assure open systems they should have bid to win. Their PR posturing is sickening.
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said by Airwolf7 See Profile :

You can mark my words that someday Google will become a more hated company than Microsoft, just give them enough time.
They already are in some circles.
said by Airwolf7 See Profile :

it's going to be fun watching all of these people getting their little hearts broke when Google does something EVIL.
Not necessarily evil, but look around here at all of the Google zealots that were certain that Google was going to win the spectrum auction and deploy free/affordable Internet service from coast to coast.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20281893 Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:54:32 EDT Re: Someone at Google needs to put down the pipe. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20281890 Sammer :
said by RadioDoc See Profile :

"Based on the way that the bidding played out, our participation in the auction helped ensure that the C Block met the reserve price."

I don't think the C block needed any help. All they did was drive up the price their "competition" paid, just like some sleazebag on eBay.

"In fact, in ten of the bidding rounds we actually raised our own bid -- even though no one was bidding against us -- to ensure aggressive bidding on the C Block."

Again, what the hell is that all about? Sounds more like a sham bidder to me.
All they did was assure the C block met the reserve price. Someone had to bid at least that much to assure a winning bid. Both the A and B blocks are well above their reserves while the C block is just barely above.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20281890 Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:54:03 EDT Re: Someone at Google needs to put down the pipe. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20281866 OverModded :
said by RadioDoc See Profile :

That whole statement reeks of PR spin from a company who talked the talk but did not walk the walk.
In the poker game that was the FCC auction, Google played the part of a fourflusher and a tinhorn. That they are patting themselves on the back about this is really pathetic.
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I never drank the Google Kool-Aid, but so many people have and it's going to be fun watching all of these people getting their little hearts broke when Google does something EVIL.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20281734 Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:29:15 EDT Someone at Google needs to put down the pipe. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20281639 RadioDoc : Good lord. Have they finally gone around the bend?

"Based on the way that the bidding played out, our participation in the auction helped ensure that the C Block met the reserve price."

I don't think the C block needed any help. All they did was drive up the price their "competition" paid, just like some sleazebag on eBay.

"In fact, in ten of the bidding rounds we actually raised our own bid -- even though no one was bidding against us -- to ensure aggressive bidding on the C Block."

Again, what the hell is that all about? Sounds more like a sham bidder to me.

"In turn, that helped increase the revenues raised for the U.S. Treasury,"

Now that may be a new record in PR spin.

" while making sure that the openness conditions would be applied to the ultimate licensee."

Sadly, they did nothing of the kind, as Karl has repeatedly pointed out.

That whole statement reeks of PR spin from a company who talked the talk but did not walk the walk.
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