Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA
| Re: Someone at Google needs to put down the pipe. said by RadioDoc  :"Based on the way that the bidding played out, our participation in the auction helped ensure that the C Block met the reserve price."I don't think the C block needed any help. All they did was drive up the price their "competition" paid, just like some sleazebag on eBay. "In fact, in ten of the bidding rounds we actually raised our own bid -- even though no one was bidding against us -- to ensure aggressive bidding on the C Block."Again, what the hell is that all about? Sounds more like a sham bidder to me. All they did was assure the C block met the reserve price. Someone had to bid at least that much to assure a winning bid. Both the A and B blocks are well above their reserves while the C block is just barely above. | |
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58ef2c0
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join:2000-05-11
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| Re: Someone at Google needs to put down the pipe. All they did was use this as an opportunity for a lot of free publicity. Their participation was unnecessary and they had no intention of winning anything, just like an eBay bidder who knows the competition will outbid them running up the price for fun or revenge.
If they wanted to assure open systems they should have bid to win. Their PR posturing is sickening.
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join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA | Re: Someone at Google needs to put down the pipe. That's true it was really just a publicity stunt for Google but assuming Verizon Wireless and the other winners really wanted the C Block it didn't change their bidding. | |
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58ef2c0
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join:2000-05-11
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| Re: Someone at Google needs to put down the pipe. Correct, which is why I call Google a sham bidder in it for the publicity. Releasing statements now which make them sound like they have some benevolent motive is even sleazier, since they appear to be aimed at silencing the criticism.
Especially that part about doing it to increase the money into the Treasury. What a pot of marketing diarrhea.
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join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA
1 edit | Re: Someone at Google needs to put down the pipe. If Google wants to put an extra 1.3 billion in the U. S. Treasury the Feds won't turn it down, D block is still available. Their shareholders probably wouldn't like such a publicity stunt. | |
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58ef2c0
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| Re: Someone at Google needs to put down the pipe. The publicity stunt was propping themselves up as some kind of wireless public guardian when in reality they are cheap publicity-seeking hucksters.
They are in the advertising business. Never forget that.
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join:2001-12-31
Troy, MI
| Re: Someone at Google needs to put down the pipe. Chill out.
Where was any other company in this fight?
Where was Microsoft? Where was Apple? Both of which are sitting on mountains of cash.
Look, just because Google saw an opportunity to do a PR spin on this (which I agree with you, is all talk) doesn't make them the villain. They moved on some good publicity, with no intention of buying spectrum. | |
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58ef2c0
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join:2000-05-11 | Re: Someone at Google needs to put down the pipe. Fucking apologists are everywhere.
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join:2001-12-31
Troy, MI | Re: Someone at Google needs to put down the pipe. Let's not get Ad hominem or anything.
Tell me, what other outcome did you expect in this situation? | |
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58ef2c0
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| Re: Someone at Google needs to put down the pipe. Just stating facts.
Who expected any other outcome? That's the point. Google ran in, talked a good game like any PR huckster would, collected their ill-gotten fluffy press coverage and then disappeared. Had they truly been committed to open access they would have bid to win.
Instead they issue press releases slapping themselves on the back for a non-job well done. They are very good at advertising their own brand.
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join:2001-12-31
Troy, MI
1 edit | Re: Someone at Google needs to put down the pipe. I don't think a huckster would be developing an open operating system that would tie in multiple services which are currently crippled by the wireless providers (GPS comes to mind).
Yes, they are an advertising company and will use this to money. Welcome to America
My point is that Google has added SIGNIFICANT value to my online experience, to my knowledge, has cost me nothing. I can live with the fact they tried to put a PR spin on this auction. Big deal. They really didn't have enough cash to win; Verizon would have opened a 10-15 billion line of credit if they had to. Their existence depended on them winning this.
Google still holds my faith and trust, much more than Microsoft or Yahoo. This remains unchanged. | |
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58ef2c0
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| Re: Someone at Google needs to put down the pipe. They are an advertising company first and foremost.
That you don't find it inconsistent with good public stewardship (which is the cloak they drape upon themselves) that they bid in an auction they had no intention of winning just to get PR pretty much ends this discussion. Microsoft or Yahoo are not relevant because, surprise!, they didn't bid nor did they make a bunch of noise going into the auction trying to drum up support for a cause they had no intent of advancing.
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join:2001-12-31
Troy, MI
1 edit | Re: Someone at Google needs to put down the pipe. How long have you had a grudge against Google?
And also, what do you make of their mobile operating system they're working on?
Again, Google has/is offering me services that everyone else is too tepid to; for fear of stepping on the toes of wireless providers. Sure, at&t can bundle in whatever crap software they want to put in Android in order to get it on the network, but I'll never use it. | |
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58ef2c0
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join:2000-05-11 | Re: Someone at Google needs to put down the pipe. How long have you been a blind supporter?
I have no grudge against them or any other company until they pull a slimy stunt like this.
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join:2001-12-31
Troy, MI | Re: Someone at Google needs to put down the pipe. Since they offered Gmail, Picasa, Google Maps, Google Reader, Google Groups...Hm, give me 5min, I can think of a few more. | |
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58ef2c0
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join:2000-05-11 | Re: Someone at Google needs to put down the pipe. Enjoy the Kool Aid. | |
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join:2001-12-31
Troy, MI | Re: Someone at Google needs to put down the pipe. enjoy being bitter | |
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