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heels_fan
1.20.09 The start of Socialism
Premium
join:2003-02-07
Columbia, TN

reply to et1212
Re: Is your DSL connection interrupted by Lightening?

I live in Middle TN. We have some very bad storms to come through from time to time,especially in the Spring.

My westel 6100 has never lost sync during a lightning or a thunderstorm.
For instance just the other night, lightning struck a tree about 45 yards from my house.
The tree is all burnt on one side all the way to the ground.
My modem nor my DSL connection ever dropped sync.

I guess I am special, according to all the talk about westels and thunder/lightning storms.
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everyone is born ignorant. some are born stupid, others achieve stupidity and the rest have stupidity thrust upon them.

Airwolf7
Premium
join:2004-12-12
Franklin, KY
·AT&T Southeast

There seems to be some talk that poor grounding/bonding is a factor with the Westell 6100 regarding lightning issues because it is a very sensitive modem and your grounding/bonding might be in great shape.

heels_fan, is your Westell 6100 one of those little Westell 6100 models? I think that they are E90-610030-06 model.

The reason why I'm asking is because the models before the E model are based on the retail model Westell 6100 and have lots of components missing on the circuit board and maybe the circuity is not as well tuned as it could be with these components missing.

The little E model Westell 6100 is a lot smaller and I would guess that it probably does not have missing components and this new circuit board, because it is smaller and newer, might not have these problems due to the fact that the Westell engineers might have tuned the circuity differently based on the new layout and possible feedback from the field about lightning sensitivity issues.

I really don't know about any of this because I'm just guessing, but it sounds plausible.

et1212

join:2005-10-23
Mableton, GA
I have a small Westell 6100.

How can I tell if the problem is related to house wiring?


heels_fan
1.20.09 The start of Socialism
Premium
join:2003-02-07
Columbia, TN
reply to Airwolf7
my modem is the westel B90-610030-06 with a Rev level of C.
It is the little black westel


nwrickert
sand groper
Premium,MVM
join:2004-09-04
Geneva, IL
·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T Midwest

reply to et1212
How can I tell if the problem is related to house wiring?
When I was seeing lightning problems related to house wiring, I was also losing sync too often when there was no lightning.

Sorry for confusing you about that.

If you hold solid sync when there are no thunderstorms around, then the problem is not likely to be house wiring. If the problem occurs even when the thunderstorm is distant (not overhead), then this is unlikely to be related to house wiring.

From your description, I suspect that part of the line connecting you to the CO is aerial, and is acting as an antenna and picking up the noise from the thunderstorm. When the amount of noise reaches a level comparable to the dsl signal, you lose sync.

Okay, that's only guesswork, based on what I have seen with other reports of similar problems. If I am right, there probably isn't much you can do about it.
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AT&T dsl; Westell 327w modem/router; SuSE 10.1; firefox 2.0.0.13


Splitpair
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join:2000-07-29
Cow Towne
·T-Mobile US


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said by nwrickert See Profile :

From your description, I suspect that part of the line connecting you to the CO is aerial, and is acting as an antenna and picking up the noise from the thunderstorm.
Na most of the effect that an indirect lightning hit has on Telco cables is inductive which affect aerial as well as buried cables.

Wayne

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Yeah, there's a storm on the loose, sirens in my head
Wrapped up in silence, all circuits are dead
Cannot decode - my whole life spins into a frenzy

Airwolf7
Premium
join:2004-12-12
Franklin, KY
·AT&T Southeast

reply to heels_fan
said by heels_fan See Profile :

my modem is the westel B90-610030-06 with a Rev level of C.
It is the little black westel
The little bitty Westell 6100 I was talking about would probably fit inside of the older model Westell 6100 modems.

I think that they are model number E90-610030-06.

et1212

join:2005-10-23
Mableton, GA
·AT&T Southeast

reply to Splitpair
said by Splitpair See Profile :

said by nwrickert See Profile :

From your description, I suspect that part of the line connecting you to the CO is aerial, and is acting as an antenna and picking up the noise from the thunderstorm.
Na most of the effect that an indirect lightning hit has on Telco cables is inductive which affect aerial as well as buried cables. The problem comes in where the bonding of the cable opens (most commonly at splices) rendering the sheath ineffective in it’s ability to isolate the pairs within from the effects of inductance.

FWIW those are the same bonding problems that cause the loss of synch in the evenings troubles only instead of lightning being the cause its power influence from the increased load on the single phase electrical distribution commonly used in residential areas. PI is something that I have been preaching about for years and is now finally being discovered by the masses in the OSP world.

Wayne
I am not 100 sure I understand it. But I assume, if you are right, there is noting I can do, correct?

Neil0311 had not such problem with Wetell6100 (he is not too far away from me), so I am a little confused.

rambo30117

join:2006-10-15
Carrollton, GA
reply to heels_fan
i thought your bug was a knat on my screen and started to swat it
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