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| reply to PeteC2 Re: [Notebooks] HP Pavilion Laptops - What are the differences?
Hey, Pete I resemble that remark 
The idea of a desktop replacement and a few years of function, I'm currently saving for that "$2,568.00" laptop 
will probably take another month. As stated before the real issue I have is with the sub par video solution and HD RPM on non custom slaptops. Given a 17" with replacement capabilities to the desktop, it's worth the extra money; just.
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| said by Kiwi :Hey, Pete I resemble that remark  The idea of a desktop replacement and a few years of function, I'm currently saving for that "$2,568.00" laptop  will probably take another month. As stated before the real issue I have is with the sub par video solution and HD RPM on non custom slaptops. Given a 17" with replacement capabilities to the desktop, it's worth the extra money; just. Cheers Hey Kiwi, that was no "slap" on anyone spending $2.5K on a higher-end notebook at all! Unlike you, I have absolutely no need for a discrete graphics solution, and in fact, for me, integrated graphics is the better solution, in terms of cooler running and lower battery usage...but then, I do not play games (anymore), and the integrated graphics perform just fine for all the functions I need.
Same thing with the lower-end, 1280x800 15.4" screen. I simply have no need or desire for a higher end LCD...but I certainly can not blame anyone else who does desire one!
Fact is, there are very valid reasons why some notebooks cost $700, and some $2700...but when folks here talk about given machines, I do like to point out that you do, in the end, get what you pay for! When someone buys a sub $1K notebook, and then complains about gameplay ability, or how poorly the case/screen held up during a 2 week trek into the jungle, etc., welll...folks ought to know what they paid for, right?
When someone here asks "How is (name a brand & model) this laptop?", I always look at it from within it's "class". In other words, is it a budget-class notebook, a "ruggedized" model for lots of travel, or a high-performance graphics capable machine?
For example, if you ask me how I like my HP Pavillion dv6625us, I'll tell you "Great!"...within it's range, as a budget ($700) notebook! If you asked me to compare it to a $2K model...then I would have to say "Not so hot!"...but then, I did only spend $700...before rebate... -- ...something is happening here but you don't know what it is...do you, Mr. Jones? | |   Kiwi Premium join:2003-05-26 USA
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| Excuse me the slaptop comment referred to generic gerbil laptops of any ilk and not intended to defame anybody or their purchase preference. Some are starting to get with the game plan, it's a slow road though.
Buying want you want, is indeed a separate issue to buying what you need and cuts both ways; provided what one buys, works for what one needs there is a no contest situation. | |   Kiwi Premium join:2003-05-26 USA edit: April 6th, @09:13PM
| reply to PeteC2 Don't know how or why -Duplicate post | |   PeteC2 Ballad Of A Thin Man Premium,MVM join:2002-01-20 Bristol, CT clubs:
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| reply to Kiwi said by Kiwi :Excuse me the slaptop comment referred to generic gerbil laptops of any ilk and not intended to defame anybody or their purchase preference.  Some are starting to get with the game plan, it's a slow road though. Buying want you want, is indeed a separate issue to buying what you need and cuts both ways; provided what one buys, works for what one needs there is a no contest situation. Yep, I agree. You know, it is never a problem when we can buy what we "want"...not many users with $2.5K notebooks are complaining about 'em! 
It is in the budget class that most of the "hard feelings" exist, and it is a bit odd that we tend to praise/blame brands when it is really usually the configuration that is in question!
Not so much in this forum, as there tend to be "educated" users, but in many other forums I see a repeating reaction that tends to go like this:
"I hate (name your brand) laptops, because I bought one, and (A) I dropped it, and the cheap plastic case did not hold up like a titanium-alloy case would...(B) The Celeron CPU ran real weak (C) Crysis didn't run so hot on the poky integrated graphics that came on this (D) All of the above.
When choosing a laptop, I always key in on exactly what I expect of it...games...graphics...durability...whatever...then, I decide what hardware features I need for that laptop to fill those needs. In fact, in today's computers, CPU actually is not often a flaming issue to me...as long as it is sufficient to get the job done.
Only then do I start looking at which brands carry which models that meet those needs.
Recently I read a post from a guy griping about the "cheap" Dell Vostro that he bought...wouldn't play games worth a damn, and not all that solidly constructed...well hell! He bought it with integrated graphics, a puny hard drive, and one of the lowest rated CPUs! It probably went for somewheres around $550 give or take a few bucks...whaddya expect???
Then again, my mom is thinking about buying an Acer laptop that is on sale for $450. Celeron CPU, 1gb ram, 120gb drive, Vista Basic...but she will only use it for email, on-line shopping, very basic stuff. I expect that she will like it just fine. -- ...something is happening here but you don't know what it is...do you, Mr. Jones? | |
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