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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/543553"><b>ardo</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  CR123 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1410005"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Incoming tel line to POTS splitter IN.<br>Alarm wire to POTS output.<br>The *one* DSL pair, break it out from the rest of the pairs, take it to the DSL output.<br> </div>Thanks. I installed it last night & it is working fine. However, I see no appreciable difference in SNR, so it really must be my distance from CO rather than anything else.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1544683"><b>tertech</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  David_T <A HREF="/useremail/u/1389250"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Reading this has got me very interested in these POTS spliters, but I'm still confused as to how you install one of these.<br></div>I found this site very helpful when I installed an outdoor splitter at the NID.  &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.homephonewiring.com/dsl.html" >www.homephonewiring.com/dsl.html</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/736873"><b>GearHead360</b></A> : not 100% sure. But from what I read on this forum its a "Comtest CPE NID splitter"<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.comtestnetworks.com/products/cpe/nid.html" >www.comtestnetworks.com/products&middot;&middot;&middot;nid.html</A>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:21:38 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1389250"><b>David_T</b></A> : Ok, I figured. Thanks.<br><br>Just placed the order for one with TSI over the phone (for $25). Would anyone happen to know which one TSI offers though? The rep wasn't sure.<br><br>I really don't mind which it is, as long as it works. But if it is the Comtest NID-01, I'll need to make a little DIY mounting bracket for it, as I'm installing it inside to the line coming from the Demarc.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:45:06 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1410005"><b>CR123</b></A> : The best results would be if you installed it at the demarc; otherwise, you'd probably just as well use a microfilter at the jack.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 02:22:34 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1389250"><b>David_T</b></A> : Reading this has got me very interested in these POTS spliters, but I'm still confused as to how you install one of these.<br><br>Looking at the Corning one shown here: &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.corningcablesystems.com/web/library/litindex.nsf/0/bd4f6305a5152beb862568020065eb85/$FILE/202-247-3.pdf" >www.corningcablesystems.com/web/&middot;&middot;&middot;47-3.pdf</A>, does this mean I could just connect this filter to any phone jack in my house using the LINE jack and then plug my modem into the DATA jack, and not have to worry about filtering anything else in my home? Or do I need to install it right to the line coming from the Demarc?<br><br>And last, is TSI still selling the Comtest NID-02 for $25?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1410005"><b>CR123</b></A> : Incoming tel line to POTS splitter IN.<br>Alarm wire to POTS output.<br>The *one* DSL pair, break it out from the rest of the pairs, take it to the DSL output.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/543553"><b>ardo</b></A> : OK, I got my POTS splitter. Now, looking closely at the alarm connection, I seem to have a problem. The incoming TELCO line goes to the alarm. Another 2 wires from the alarm connect to filtered phone line & DSL line. So I've got 4 wires to deal with, and I'm not sure how. TIA - ardo.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1267354"><b>Bicephale</b></A> : Maybe you should investigate HPNA solutions where<br>the HPNA module would be located in the basement.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1544683"><b>tertech</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  sbrook <A HREF="/useremail/u/539077"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>But the distance rule still applies.<br> </div>For sure!  You can't plea bargain with the laws of physics  :D]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:51:42 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/539077"><b>sbrook</b></A> : That's even where modern CAT 3 telco wire is better because the cable is still twisted.  The old stuff was just 4 conductors in a jacket!  But the distance rule still applies.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:47:40 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1544683"><b>tertech</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  sbrook <A HREF="/useremail/u/539077"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>In general, the amount of noise that can be induced into your line is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from the source.<br> </div>Shouldn't CAT5 ( twisted ) be better for long runs than POTS cable at reducing induced EM noise? I know it's not a true differential interface, but the twisted pair should help some.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:39:02 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1508357"><b>nanook</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  sknighti <A HREF="/useremail/u/1127829"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>will the pots splitter being beside the electrical fuse box matter?</div>The concern is not just the POTS splitter but also the wiring that comes into your home up to the demarc. <br><br>For instance I live in a townhouse. Bell's telephone wire comes into my unit in parallel with a lot of electrical wiring. Both sets of wiring terminate in the same wiring closet with Bell's demarc right beside the electrical panel. Short of pulling out Bell's cable to where it enters my unit and rerouting it to a new outside NID some distance away, there is not much I can do. I cannot do that rewiring myself because that would be Bell's responsibility as well as a violation of my condo bylaws (the outside of my unit is common elements, etc.)<br><br>So... all I can do is install a POTS splitter inside a standard, grounded electrical box hoping that I have shielded my DSL signal from as much noise as possible.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:05:59 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/539077"><b>sbrook</b></A> : In general, the amount of noise that can be induced into your line is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from the source.<br><br>So, assuming your electric panel is a source of noise, if you double the distance from the box to the phone cable/splitter, you can 1/4 the induced noise.  While putting phone wiring for telephone purposes near your electric box and power cables wasn't a problem for phone, it matters for DSL far more.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:01:59 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1127829"><b>sknighti</b></A> : will the pots splitter being beside the electrical fuse box matter?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:48:35 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/539077"><b>sbrook</b></A> : That's correct ... but if your inside wiring isn't contributing negatively to your line quality issues, then going with a pots splitter isn't going to change anything - and that happens.  If the inside wiring doesn't run in a way that picks up electrical noise from the power lines by close proximity issues; if it doesn't go past dimmers; if it doesn't go past certain kinds of fluorescent lights etc., then it's not likely to cause problems with your DSL.  BUT by using a POTS splitter and then running a new clean line to your DSL modem, avoiding sources of interference etc. then if there are interference problems you'll clean it up.<br><br>Now bear in mind that I've heard of people install a POTS splitter, and then take the internal wire for the modem straight past a lamp dimmer, and right along power cables etc.  In that case, you may be worse off!  Not the fault of the POTS splitter.  What the POTS splitter does do for you is give you the opportunity for a clean line.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:43:32 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1127829"><b>sknighti</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  CR123 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1410005"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  sknighti <A HREF="/useremail/u/1127829"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>is it normal for a pots splitter to do nothing in terms of changing the stats?<br> </div>Quite possibly. If your line is great already, it's fairly likely that a POTS splitter won't do too much else.<br><br>If you line is really marginal, sometimes it can't help that much, either.<br><br>And a lot depends on the quality and quantity of your inside wire.<br> </div>Yeah but I thought pots splitter would get around the quality of my inside wiring since it splits off the line from the NID]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:18:34 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1410005"><b>CR123</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  sknighti <A HREF="/useremail/u/1127829"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>is it normal for a pots splitter to do nothing in terms of changing the stats?<br> </div>Quite possibly. If your line is great already, it's fairly likely that a POTS splitter won't do too much else.<br><br>If you line is really marginal, sometimes it can't help that much, either.<br><br>And a lot depends on the quality and quantity of your inside wire.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 03:52:50 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1267354"><b>Bicephale</b></A> : Hi GearHead360,<br><br>This schematic explains the difference, if you can "read" it:<br><br><A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19352457"><IMG SRC="http://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/1231578~c08cf90c72725d9b9dce162fd8889dec/ADSL%20Splitter%20with%20DC%20Blocking%20.GIF"><br><small>The customer's own wiring, Bicephale, 2007-Oct-30</small></a><br><br>The "DC Blocking" section is responsible for removing the dial<br>tone and the D.C. voltages with it.  Any phone appliance which<br>is connected to the ADSL MoDem outlet of such a filter would<br>simply fail to "pick" the line because there's no D.C. path.    If an<br>alarm system is present then i'd consider that those systems<br>must have priority control over the D.C. path in order to make<br>sure no other phone appliance in the house can prevent dialing.<br><br>In other words, the alarm circuit shouldn't affect the DSL part<br>but a POTS splitter/filter will certainly affect an alarm system<br>if it's not installed properly...  Looking at the schematic above,<br>i gather it's safe to assume that the alarm circuit connects to<br>the "Telephones, FAX, etc." outlet and then every other phone<br>appliance would connect through it so that if the alarm happens<br>to be triggered then nothing can prevent the dialing to occur...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/543553"><b>ardo</b></A> : Thanks, I already have a double-filtered contraption at the point of entry. However, I also have an alarm system. Currently, it bypasses the filters, i.e. still interferes with DSL signal. From what I've read so far, I do believe that a splitter from Corning is a better solution. My SNR is quite low, otherwise I wouldn't be spending extra $$ on a splitter.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1474983"><b>mr_hexen</b></A> : wow alot of extra money could be easily saved.<br><br>buy a General inline filter.<br><br>at the inside DEMARC split it to the Red/Green pair and the Yellow/Black Pair. Filter the Yel/Black pair ONCE and then where your modem connects to put a dual RJ-11 wall plate and attach the red/green on the inside pair to the top and the yel/blk to the inside pair onthe bottom.<br><br>this is what i did, works great and costed $5 plus a wall plate ($3)<br><br>edit: spelling error]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:33:17 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/543553"><b>ardo</b></A> : I just came across this thread while looking for a POTS splitter. Which module goes for $70? I just got my quote from Anixter for CORNING SPS-H70-SR1 SPLITTER for about $30. I was under the impression that's the one Steve has recommended. Too bad it took about 24Hrs for Anixter to quote, I already ordered one off e-bay for $24 shipped to Toronto. Is this the right splitter though?<br><br>I will be putting it on the inside, that's like 3-4" away from NID, I don't think this would make much of a difference.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:13:47 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/593899"><b>andrewhaji</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  InvalidError <A HREF="/useremail/u/1526081"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  andrewhaji <A HREF="/useremail/u/593899"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>I used to have filters on all the telephone jacks in my house, and every time somebody called, my Internet would lose sync.  It happened right after the first ring, when caller ID information is passed down.<br> </div>How many phones do you have?<br><br>I used generic filters ($10 for a pack of 5, really simple passive LC filters) here with four phones and have no problems with my modem going through an APC SurgeArrest - other than losing about 3dB SNRM. Then again, I am on a sub-800m ADSL loop and this would solve most people's crummy wiring ADSL problems.<br> </div>I have 4 phones, but this problem occurred even when all but one of my phones were unplugged.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1433737"><b>infamouskid</b></A> : really? i did 4 connections for my relatives and they canpar courier all of them to me. i would ask for steve when you call in. he's the manager and he was the one who did it for me. i dont mind paying the extra money to have it sent to me either. i mean travel costs is pretty much the same when compared to courier fee.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/736873"><b>GearHead360</b></A> : Thx.<br><br>DEMARC box ($50) + DSL Splitter Module ($70)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1430304"><b>TSI Steve</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  GearHead360 <A HREF="/useremail/u/736873"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Which model? What is the term used to describe DSL tone elmination? How do I know if a product has such a feature?<br><br>CAC&reg; 900 Outdoor NID<br><br>CAC 5000 Outdoor NID<br><br>CAC 7600 Outdoor NID<br><br>CAC 9600 Outdoor NID<br> </div>I do not recall the modem.<br><br>Check out hometech.com<br>I bought the one they recommend.<br><br>Steve<br><small>--<br>TSI Steve - TekSavvy Solutions Inc.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/736873"><b>GearHead360</b></A> : Which model? What is the term used to describe DSL tone elmination? How do I know if a product has such a feature?<br><br>CAC&reg; 900 Outdoor NID<br><br>CAC 5000 Outdoor NID<br><br>CAC 7600 Outdoor NID<br><br>CAC 9600 Outdoor NID]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1430304"><b>TSI Steve</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  GearHead360 <A HREF="/useremail/u/736873"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>TSI Steve... where can I buy these $80 POTS which have no dial tone on the dsl line and amplify the signal?<br><br>Whats the brand name & model #?<br> </div>I bought mine from a company called Anixter ... they have a location in Kitchener.<br><br>I paid for it on my CC and had it shipped to me...<br><br>I bought a Corning device.<br><br>Steve<br><small>--<br>TSI Steve - TekSavvy Solutions Inc.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/736873"><b>GearHead360</b></A> : TSI Steve... where can I buy these $80 POTS which have no dial tone on the dsl line and amplify the signal?<br><br>Whats the brand name & model #?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1430304"><b>TSI Steve</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  GearHead360 <A HREF="/useremail/u/736873"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Just got a PM and was asked to post it.<div class="bquote"><small>said by  derekm <A HREF="/useremail/u/1532716"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>    :</small><br><br>POTS is an acronym for Plain Old Telephone System.<br><br>A POTS *splitter* is a device that takes a raw phone line in, and has output terminals: one that is filtered, the other isn't.<br><br>The nice thing about the POTS splitter, everything is integrated into one tidy package. In fact, I've seen some that have RJ11 jacks, and you can plug your modem directly into. <br> </div>How about signal quailty? how is it affected?<br> </div><div class="bquote"><small>said by  GearHead360 <A HREF="/useremail/u/736873"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Just got a PM and was asked to post it.<div class="bquote"><small>said by  derekm <A HREF="/useremail/u/1532716"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>    :</small><br><br>POTS is an acronym for Plain Old Telephone System.<br><br>A POTS *splitter* is a device that takes a raw phone line in, and has output terminals: one that is filtered, the other isn't.<br><br>The nice thing about the POTS splitter, everything is integrated into one tidy package. In fact, I've seen some that have RJ11 jacks, and you can plug your modem directly into. <br> </div>How about signal quailty? how is it affected?<br> </div><div class="bquote"><small>said by  GearHead360 <A HREF="/useremail/u/736873"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Just got a PM and was asked to post it.<div class="bquote"><small>said by  derekm <A HREF="/useremail/u/1532716"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>    :</small><br><br>POTS is an acronym for Plain Old Telephone System.<br><br>A POTS *splitter* is a device that takes a raw phone line in, and has output terminals: one that is filtered, the other isn't.<br><br>The nice thing about the POTS splitter, everything is integrated into one tidy package. In fact, I've seen some that have RJ11 jacks, and you can plug your modem directly into. <br> </div>How about signal quailty? how is it affected?<br> </div>I have not read the other posts so please keep that in mind as you read my answer!<br><br>POTS splitters are far better then using filters because they split the DSL signal onto a separate pair inside the residence.  Every device you plug into a phone line adds noise and loss to the line, potentially weakening the DSL signal.<br><br>There are actually different kinds of POTS splitters as well.<br><br>The kind I prefer (cost around $80) are installed externally (although mines in my house) and you will have <i>no dial tone</i> on the DSL jack.<br>There are other POTS Splitters that still work well but you actually get an unfiltered dial tone on the DSL jack as well.<br><br>In my home I experience a 9% difference in overall line capacity and a 11dB gain on my noise margin (specifically on the down).  Went from 10dB to 21dB.<br><br>Notes about my configuration: Have multiple cordless phones.<br>Have a 900 MHz (really bad offender) and a 2.4 GHz.  Plus a couple of direct-line/hard wired, not physically wired into the phone lines, just normal/old plugged in phones.<br><br>I had multiple filters plugged into the 900MHz in order to help reduce the effect it was having on the line.  I had 3 plugged in.  <br><br>Anyway, help this helps you decide.  <br><br>Steve<br><small>--<br>TSI Steve - TekSavvy Solutions Inc.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 07:45:17 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1532716"><b>derekm</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  GearHead360 <A HREF="/useremail/u/736873"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>like this ?<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.comtestnetworks.com/products/cpe/nid.html" >www.comtestnetworks.com/products&middot;&middot;&middot;nid.html</A><br></div>If you are doing an indoor install, you probably want the CPE-01, as it has both screw terminals AND RJ11 for the line, phone, and modem.  It will give you a very slick install.  It seems the NID-01 only has 1 hook up for each.  (Judging by the pictures here):<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r18357232-Re-installing-the-comtest-NID">installing the comtest NID</A><br><br>(You'll also note the mention of duct-tape.)<br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  GearHead360 <A HREF="/useremail/u/736873"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>What about Brick and Mortar locations in Toronto and surronding areas?<br></div>If you find any, please let me know.  I haven't found any availability on this.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 01:03:10 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1532716"><b>derekm</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  infamouskid <A HREF="/useremail/u/1433737"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>u can order pots splitters from tsi for 25 bucks.<br>juss call sales and ask them to canpar one. tsi carrys the comtest one.<br> </div>They didn't have any to sell me when I called.  It wasn't like they were out of stock, more like they don't sell them.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:56:57 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1526081"><b>InvalidError</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  andrewhaji <A HREF="/useremail/u/593899"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I used to have filters on all the telephone jacks in my house, and every time somebody called, my Internet would lose sync.  It happened right after the first ring, when caller ID information is passed down.<br> </div>How many phones do you have?<br><br>I used generic filters ($10 for a pack of 5, really simple passive LC filters) here with four phones and have no problems with my modem going through an APC SurgeArrest - other than losing about 3dB SNRM. Then again, I am on a sub-800m ADSL loop and this would solve most people's crummy wiring ADSL problems.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:32:11 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/640660"><b>JayMan</b></A> : I got that exact comtest one and it made my line unstable. I have two dsl filters in line protecting my whole house and I have never had issues.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:18:44 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1537572"><b>morisato</b></A> : What i did since i Didn;t feel like filtering my whole House is I created an Indoor Second Demarc  Like the oldstyle, All bells Lines go to it and beside it is a jack where i can connect to my internal Wiring. I simply Can Filter Once right there for all jacks. <br><br>But i actually use it for Voip :) Dsl Signal into Modem in closet Modem Into Voip Router, Phone cord to Internal jacks connecting all My wiring to Vonage, At once I also have several network cables Runnin to Nic Jacks thruout my home which all go into the voip router. I wonder if the Tsi Modem w/ voip would work on Vonage.  to eliminate one box.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/736873"><b>GearHead360</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  infamouskid <A HREF="/useremail/u/1433737"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>   :</small><br><br>u can order pots splitters from tsi for 25 bucks.<br>juss call sales and ask them to canpar one. tsi carrys the comtest one.<br> </div>model number?<br><br>like this ?<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.comtestnetworks.com/products/cpe/nid.html" >www.comtestnetworks.com/products&middot;&middot;&middot;nid.html</A><br><br>What about Brick and Mortar locations in Toronto and surronding areas?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 21:25:32 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1433737"><b>infamouskid</b></A> : u can order pots splitters from tsi for 25 bucks.<br>juss call sales and ask them to canpar one. tsi carrys the comtest one.<br><small>--<br>"carpe diem"</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Why buy a pots splitter? If your good enough in the DIY department just hack a regular filter... for best results id recomend opening up the filter and soldering solid copper wires to the electronics inside instead of using that crappy phone wire. If you want to do something easier that will still work just plug a phone cable in the other end and strip the wires.<br><br>As for the installation.. Split your copper pair (the one from bell) at the demarc, put a filter on one of the pairs on the split that you will use to feed your phone jacks and the other pair on the split goes unfiltered to your modem jack.<br><br>I think the only difference between a regular filter and a pots filter is that it also filters out the phone signal from the line you send to modem, and im not even sure about that one.<br><br>Either way i know it works ive done it before.<br><br>Please correct me if im wrong about the pots splitter and filter diferences.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Why buy a pots splitter? If your good enough inthe DIY department just hack a regular filter... for best results id recomend opening up the filter and soldering solid copper wires to the electronics inside instead of using that crappy phone wire. If you want to do something easier that will still work just plug a phone cable in the other end and strip the wires.<br><br>As for the installation.. Split your copper pair (the one from bell) at the demarc, put a filter on one of the pairs on the split that you will use to feed your phone jacks and the other pair on the split goes unfiltered to your modem jack.<br><br>I think the only difference between a regular filter and a pots filter is that it also filters out the phone signal from the line you send to modem, and im not even sure about that one.<br><br>Either way i know it works ive done it before.<br><br>Please correct me if im wrong about the pots splitter and filter diferences.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/736873"><b>GearHead360</b></A> : anyone know where you can buy a POTS splitter NID in GTA or near by?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/593899"><b>andrewhaji</b></A> : I used to have filters on all the telephone jacks in my house, and every time somebody called, my Internet would lose sync.  It happened right after the first ring, when caller ID information is passed down.<br><br>I went out and got a POTS splitter from TekSavvy, installed it, and haven't had any problems at all.  If you can easily install it, I recommend it over using filters.  It'll make your life so much easier.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1508357"><b>nanook</b></A> : See also &raquo;<A HREF="/forum/remark,20068666">What qualifies a "good-quality" filter or splitter</A><br><br>The do not seem to be any available on eBay right now but the Siecor I got there a couple of years ago (for about $10) fits nicely in a standard electrical box. That is much more secure than the DSL filter I had hanging off the demarc before. And of course, with RJ-11s on the splitter I can easily plug in a modem for testing.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1532716"><b>derekm</b></A> : Less connectors and cables == Less interference<br><br>Now, whether or not it makes a difference, I would doubt it very much.<br><br>I was more interested in the POTS splitter, because I'm kind of anal when it comes to wiring.  I like to have it all tidy, and having the inline filter seemed to complicate things.<br><br>Although, I'm pretty happy with what I've got now.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/736873"><b>GearHead360</b></A> : Just got a PM and was asked to post it.<div class="bquote"><small>said by  derekm <A HREF="/useremail/u/1532716"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>   :</small><br><br>POTS is an acronym for Plain Old Telephone System.<br><br>A POTS *splitter* is a device that takes a raw phone line in, and has output terminals: one that is filtered, the other isn't.<br><br>The nice thing about the POTS splitter, everything is integrated into one tidy package. In fact, I've seen some that have RJ11 jacks, and you can plug your modem directly into. <br> </div>How about signal quailty? how is it affected?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/736873"><b>GearHead360</b></A> : Im really clueless about the difference between POTS splitter and a DSL Microfilter? Which is better and why?<br><br>Please assume that a single microfilter is installed in such a way that it filters ALL the telephone jacks at once. ]]></description>
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