 BabyBear Keep wise ...with Night-Owl
join:2007-01-11 | Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... Maybe Comcast could just do rolling connection blackouts during peak times to save their poor overloaded network.  | |
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  en102 Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... I'm glad to be using indie DSL-Extreme. I have VERY little issue with the connection as long as AT&T doesn't mess with the line. -- Canada = Hollywood North | |
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| Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... Since AT&T hands off to DSLExtreme at the ATM layer (layer 2), that's going to be highly difficult. | |
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join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY | Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... Wrong, it hands off at Layer 1, copper pair. Since in the USA almost all competitor ISPs must provide their own DSLAMs/termination modems. This isn't Canada where you get 1 fiber optic cable with all of your customers' ATM PVCs on it. | |
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join:2004-06-13 Saint Charles, MO
| Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... said by patcat88 :Wrong, it hands off at Layer 1, copper pair. Since in the USA almost all competitor ISPs must provide their own DSLAMs/termination modems. This isn't Canada where you get 1 fiber optic cable with all of your customers' ATM PVCs on it. Wrong. Very few "providers" have their own equipment. They would rather piggyback off of the companies that actually build networks! Hnading off at the cable pair would require the non-LEC ISP's to have DSLAMS in every central office. | |
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join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY | Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... Thats why there is a CLEC like Covad, but Covad and its clones have no interest in throttling. Ma bell does. The CLECs will present a aggregated interface to the ISP. | |
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| said by patcat88 :Wrong, it hands off at Layer 1, copper pair. Since in the USA almost all competitor ISPs must provide their own DSLAMs/termination modems. This isn't Canada where you get 1 fiber optic cable with all of your customers' ATM PVCs on it. You have no idea what you are talking about. I worked on wholesale DSL for nearly a decade in SBC/ATT. The wholesale subscribers are handed off to the independent ISPs at the ATM level. | |
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  MrMoody But the Grinch ... did Not.
join:2002-09-03 Smithfield, NC | Sshh, don't give them ideas. | |
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 |   FicmanS Premium join:2005-01-11 Brownsburg, IN clubs: | Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... Man you would think the Comcast folks would get tired of seeing all these reports... Maybe it's just me... | |
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join:2004-05-19 Morgantown, WV | Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... I am tired of it, but what am I going to do? It's comcast, dialup, or no internet. Those are the choices. Comcast knows this, so why should they care? | |
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join:2005-01-28 Jacksonville, FL
| I'm in pretty much the same boat. I had DSL, but it was so flakey that I just had to give it the boot. So yeah, I have Comcast, but its only because its the only thing I could get around here. That and it was only 10 bucks more than my DSL for a lot more speed. | |
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join:2007-01-15 Hampton, NH
·Comcast
| Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... Or if Congress and the likes of MS and Google are able to push through more open access. No even better let the NSA get involved. Once they decide that faster and more reliable broadband coast to coast is in the interest of National Security then Comcast (and the others will put up or disappear. 
Remember the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency was set up after the Soviet Union beat the U.S. into space with Sputnik. Its mission was to prevent "technological surprise."
If Uncle Sam says "give em them the best (before the Russians beat us to it again)"...
I'm kidding of course. I have Comcast. Had Verizon DSL and it sucked and cable was about the same price (cheaper with intro rate). I average 6-7 pass through and 4 while surfing with peak spikes of 15 -21. I'm not seeing a huge difference in downloading video or streaming (which could be the source servers) but over all it is faster.
Comcast should stop micro managing the bandwidth and just focus on new subscribers or they'll lose even more market share to FiOS. Ok I'm out of oxygen.  | |
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join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY
| Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... said by puffgussy36 :Comcast should stop micro managing the bandwidth and just focus on new subscribers or they'll lose even more market share to FiOS. Ok I'm out of oxygen. Comcast isn't loosing any serious amount of customers to FIOS. What about all the Comcast markets in ATT/Qwest land? They will never see FIOS (or more generically, FTTP). Next issue, Joe Six Pack doesn't care about speed, its not something he can rationalize. Next, people don't like change. Next people will take the cheaper product, retention offers will do wonders. | |
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join:2007-01-15 Hampton, NH
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2 edits | Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... said by patcat88  Comcast isn't loosing any serious amount of customers to FIOS. What about all the Comcast markets in ATT/Qwest land? They will never see FIOS (or more generically, FTTP). Next issue, Joe Six Pack doesn't care about speed, its not something he can rationalize. Next, people don't like change. Next people will take the cheaper product, retention offers will do wonders. Look at last years white papers. Their revenues were down. They (Comcast) admitted they underestimated FiOS as competition in a Businessweek article. Verizon aside, they still have low market saturation in my state, so I still say they should focus on new customers and leave their current ones alone! | |
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join:2001-04-24 Mount Laurel, NJ | They will care when many start to go no internet. lol | |
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join:2005-03-09 Saint Clair Shores, MI
| said by FicmanS :Man you would think the Comcast folks would get tired of seeing all these reports... Maybe it's just me... Odd thing, I'm not had a problem (like the one posted) or seen any RESET messages since going to CC a month ago. I spend a lot of time on the internet so I would think I would have seen something by now.  | |
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join:2002-04-10
| Better idea, why not just bill people and provide no service but lots of promises. Basically, let's advertise say 20mbit download with burstable speeds for X amount a month. In reality, give customers a line that doesn't work and still bill them for it. Why not. Essentially, this is what Comcraptic is doing anyway. They are providing a useless line that now interferes with activities (legal and not) that the customer chooses. I guess since Comcast is now the watchdog, the *AA's should sue them when it comes to customer's usage. Since they feel the need to play police, by all means, let them take the fall when their methods still allow traffic to occur. | |
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join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY | Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... Since then Joe Six Pack and grandma will drop the service. Then CC is in deep trouble. | |
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  dvd536 as Mr. Pink as they come Premium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ
| said by BabyBear :Maybe Comcast could just do rolling connection blackouts during peak times to save their poor overloaded network. Or how about this novel idea: UPGRADE THEIR NETWORK! -- You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth | |
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join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY | Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... Increase speed without upgrading, then turn on throttling to surpress the congestion created by the speed upgrade. Perfect idea. | |
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