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stfu

@sbc.com

reply to patcat88
Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin...

said by patcat88 See Profile :

Wrong, it hands off at Layer 1, copper pair. Since in the USA almost all competitor ISPs must provide their own DSLAMs/termination modems. This isn't Canada where you get 1 fiber optic cable with all of your customers' ATM PVCs on it.
You have no idea what you are talking about. I worked on wholesale DSL for nearly a decade in SBC/ATT. The wholesale subscribers are handed off to the independent ISPs at the ATM level.

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
reply to Dark_Fiber
Thats why there is a CLEC like Covad, but Covad and its clones have no interest in throttling. Ma bell does. The CLECs will present a aggregated interface to the ISP.

Dark_Fiber
Here We Go Again.

join:2004-06-13
Saint Charles, MO

reply to patcat88
said by patcat88 See Profile :

Wrong, it hands off at Layer 1, copper pair. Since in the USA almost all competitor ISPs must provide their own DSLAMs/termination modems. This isn't Canada where you get 1 fiber optic cable with all of your customers' ATM PVCs on it.
Wrong. Very few "providers" have their own equipment. They would rather piggyback off of the companies that actually build networks! Hnading off at the cable pair would require the non-LEC ISP's to have DSLAMS in every central office.

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
reply to hahahaha
Wrong, it hands off at Layer 1, copper pair. Since in the USA almost all competitor ISPs must provide their own DSLAMs/termination modems. This isn't Canada where you get 1 fiber optic cable with all of your customers' ATM PVCs on it.


hahahaha

@swbell.net

reply to BabyBear
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said by en102 See Profile :

as long as AT&T doesn't mess with the line.
Yeah guess we'll have to see what those so-called 'piracy' filters decide to drop that AT&T is touting. If they screw that up just half of what they are capable of, could make Comcast's data raping look like a 'hands-off' approach.
Since AT&T hands off to DSLExtreme at the ATM layer (layer 2), that's going to be highly difficult.


BabyBear
Keep wise ...with Night-Owl

join:2007-01-11

reply to en102
said by en102 See Profile :

as long as AT&T doesn't mess with the line.
Yeah guess we'll have to see what those so-called 'piracy' filters decide to drop that AT&T is touting. If they screw that up just half of what they are capable of, could make Comcast's data raping look like a 'hands-off' approach.


en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
reply to BabyBear
I'm glad to be using indie DSL-Extreme.
I have VERY little issue with the connection as long as AT&T doesn't mess with the line.
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