Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20297431 en Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:13:15 EDT Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:13:15 EDT Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20307062 puffgussy36 :
said by patcat88 See Profile Comcast isn't loosing any serious amount of customers to FIOS. What about all the Comcast markets in ATT/Qwest land? They will never see FIOS (or more generically, FTTP). Next issue, Joe Six Pack doesn't care about speed, its not something he can rationalize. Next, people don't like change. Next people will take the cheaper product, retention offers will do wonders.
Look at last years white papers. Their revenues were down. They (Comcast) admitted they underestimated FiOS as competition in a Businessweek article. Verizon aside, they still have low market saturation in my state, so I still say they should focus on new customers and leave their current ones alone!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20307062 Wed, 09 Apr 2008 09:32:43 EDT Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20302714 anon :
said by patcat88 See Profile :

Wrong, it hands off at Layer 1, copper pair. Since in the USA almost all competitor ISPs must provide their own DSLAMs/termination modems. This isn't Canada where you get 1 fiber optic cable with all of your customers' ATM PVCs on it.
You have no idea what you are talking about. I worked on wholesale DSL for nearly a decade in SBC/ATT. The wholesale subscribers are handed off to the independent ISPs at the ATM level.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20302714 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:30:27 EDT Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20302120 patcat88 : Thats why there is a CLEC like Covad, but Covad and its clones have no interest in throttling. Ma bell does. The CLECs will present a aggregated interface to the ISP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20302120 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 11:45:09 EDT Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20301843 Dark_Fiber :
said by patcat88 See Profile :

Wrong, it hands off at Layer 1, copper pair. Since in the USA almost all competitor ISPs must provide their own DSLAMs/termination modems. This isn't Canada where you get 1 fiber optic cable with all of your customers' ATM PVCs on it.
Wrong. Very few "providers" have their own equipment. They would rather piggyback off of the companies that actually build networks! Hnading off at the cable pair would require the non-LEC ISP's to have DSLAMS in every central office.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20301843 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 11:01:08 EDT Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20301052 espaeth :
said by patcat88 See Profile :

Increase speed without upgrading, then turn on throttling to surpress the congestion created by the speed upgrade.
In order to have downstream channel bonding you need DOCSIS 3.0 CMTS hardware with a packet scheduler that understands how to divide the traffic across the channels. You can't fake the new speed upgrades they are starting to roll out.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20301052 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 07:48:43 EDT Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20300651 patcat88 : Increase speed without upgrading, then turn on throttling to surpress the congestion created by the speed upgrade. Perfect idea.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20300651 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:26:51 EDT Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20300648 patcat88 : Since then Joe Six Pack and grandma will drop the service. Then CC is in deep trouble.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20300648 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:25:27 EDT Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20300647 patcat88 :
said by puffgussy36 See Profile :

Comcast should stop micro managing the bandwidth and just focus on new subscribers or they'll lose even more market share to FiOS. Ok I'm out of oxygen. :)
Comcast isn't loosing any serious amount of customers to FIOS. What about all the Comcast markets in ATT/Qwest land? They will never see FIOS (or more generically, FTTP). Next issue, Joe Six Pack doesn't care about speed, its not something he can rationalize. Next, people don't like change. Next people will take the cheaper product, retention offers will do wonders.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20300647 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:24:38 EDT Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20300640 patcat88 : Wrong, it hands off at Layer 1, copper pair. Since in the USA almost all competitor ISPs must provide their own DSLAMs/termination modems. This isn't Canada where you get 1 fiber optic cable with all of your customers' ATM PVCs on it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20300640 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:21:18 EDT Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20300544 tc1uscg :
said by FicmanS See Profile :

Man you would think the Comcast folks would get tired of seeing all these reports... Maybe it's just me...
Odd thing, I'm not had a problem (like the one posted) or seen any RESET messages since going to CC a month ago. I spend a lot of time on the internet so I would think I would have seen something by now. :huh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20300544 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 01:30:30 EDT Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20298756 puffgussy36 : Or if Congress and the likes of MS and Google are able to push through more open access. No even better let the NSA get involved. Once they decide that faster and more reliable broadband coast to coast is in the interest of National Security then Comcast (and the others will put up or disappear. :)

Remember the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency was set up after the Soviet Union beat the U.S. into space with Sputnik. Its mission was to prevent "technological surprise."

If Uncle Sam says "give em them the best (before the Russians beat us to it again)"...

I'm kidding of course. I have Comcast. Had Verizon DSL and it sucked and cable was about the same price (cheaper with intro rate). I average 6-7 pass through and 4 while surfing with peak spikes of 15 -21. I'm not seeing a huge difference in downloading video or streaming (which could be the source servers) but over all it is faster.

Comcast should stop micro managing the bandwidth and just focus on new subscribers or they'll lose even more market share to FiOS. Ok I'm out of oxygen. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20298756 Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:55:37 EDT Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20298647 espaeth :
said by dvd536 See Profile :

Or how about this novel idea: UPGRADE THEIR NETWORK!
What makes you think they're not upgrading their network? They just rolled out free upgrades from 6/384 to 6/1 and 8/768 to 8/2 here, and added at 50/5 tier. In the last few months they've increased the markets for which they've rolled out Blast! That doesn't happen without some kind of infrastructure investment.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20298647 Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:31:43 EDT Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20298476 dvd536 :
said by BabyBear See Profile :

Maybe Comcast could just do rolling connection blackouts during peak times to save their poor overloaded network. :uhh:
Or how about this novel idea: UPGRADE THEIR NETWORK!
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said by BabyBear See Profile :

said by en102 See Profile :

as long as AT&T doesn't mess with the line.
Yeah guess we'll have to see what those so-called 'piracy' filters decide to drop that AT&T is touting. :huh: If they screw that up just half of what they are capable of, could make Comcast's data raping look like a 'hands-off' approach. ;) :o
Since AT&T hands off to DSLExtreme at the ATM layer (layer 2), that's going to be highly difficult.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20298323 Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:41:23 EDT Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20297987 Rhanlav : I'm in pretty much the same boat. I had DSL, but it was so flakey that I just had to give it the boot. So yeah, I have Comcast, but its only because its the only thing I could get around here. That and it was only 10 bucks more than my DSL for a lot more speed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20297987 Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:35:41 EDT Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20297929 jc100 : Better idea, why not just bill people and provide no service but lots of promises. Basically, let's advertise say 20mbit download with burstable speeds for X amount a month. In reality, give customers a line that doesn't work and still bill them for it. Why not. Essentially, this is what Comcraptic is doing anyway. They are providing a useless line that now interferes with activities (legal and not) that the customer chooses. I guess since Comcast is now the watchdog, the *AA's should sue them when it comes to customer's usage. Since they feel the need to play police, by all means, let them take the fall when their methods still allow traffic to occur.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20297929 Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:25:08 EDT Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20297798 ropeguru :
said by yaw See Profile :

I am tired of it, but what am I going to do? It's comcast, dialup, or no internet. Those are the choices. Comcast knows this, so why should they care?
Hahaha... I am waiting for the "Well you just need to move then" people to show up.

But I know how you feel.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20297798 Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:05:10 EDT Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20297649 xrobertcmx : That was how it was for me for a very long time, finally FIOS became available and away I went.
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said by en102 See Profile :

as long as AT&T doesn't mess with the line.
Yeah guess we'll have to see what those so-called 'piracy' filters decide to drop that AT&T is touting. :huh: If they screw that up just half of what they are capable of, could make Comcast's data raping look like a 'hands-off' approach. ;) :o]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20297426 Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:52:24 EDT Re: Rollin.. Rollin.. Rollin... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20297396 en102 : I'm glad to be using indie DSL-Extreme.
I have VERY little issue with the connection as long as AT&T doesn't mess with the line.
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