Re: hmm in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20304256 en Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:56:01 EDT Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:56:01 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20308901 wmcbrine :
said by cypherstream See Profile :

The thing only tunes from 90-860 MHz. Why can't they put analog from 54-90 MHz then?
Because they need the space for HD, which the free box can't handle anyway.

Edit: I mean for Fios. I don't know others' plans.
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said by majortom1029 See Profile :

So basically this is another example of how the fcc is allowing verizon to do whatever it wants and cable can do nothing.

Why is it that verizon gets exempt but cable doesn't?
Could it be something like this:
»blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/1···spy.html ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20306448 Wed, 09 Apr 2008 02:57:43 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20304803 cypherstream : The thing only tunes from 90-860 MHz. Why can't they put analog from 54-90 MHz then?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20304803 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:09:15 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20304256 dvd536 :
said by N3OGH See Profile :

"Verizon had cut a deal with the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to cease analog transmission prior to the 2009 date in exchange for a waiver exempting it from the ban on set-top boxes (STBs) with integrated security, which was put into effect in July."

I'm ignorant on the whole subject of STB's with integrated security, and the associated "bannage".

Could someone fill me in?
This feb 2009 date is only for OVER THE AIR analog, NOT fibre, cable, satellite.
the seperable security thing was supposed to give the sub more choice in STB. HAHA what a joke that was!
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said by majortom1029 See Profile :

So basically this is another example of how the fcc is allowing verizon to do whatever it wants and cable can do nothing.

Why is it that verizon gets exempt but cable doesn't?
No the FCC offered the same deal to cable companies and a few smaller ones took them up on it. Neither Comcast or Time Warner Cable are ready to go all digital yet.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20303265 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 15:07:27 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20303160 Frank : holy crap,

i saw one of those at a car dealership, i was wondering what the hell it was.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20303160 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:46:39 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20302590 Ebolla : the boxes comcast and other providers are required to buy now have a cable card built into them. This is the only difference from older model settop boxes. It is the FCC's way of "getting cable cards into more peoples hands" problem is the cable cards are integrated into the box and not removable by customer. This essentially makes it like an older model box just with more parts to go wrong. FCC at its finest.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20302590 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:05:30 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20302462 anon : Yes, the only exception is the comcast version seems to have black casing instead of the gray.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20302462 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:45:44 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20302105 NY Tel :
said by patcat88 See Profile :

»www.motorola.com/business/v/inde···b00aRCRD

this thing?
That would be the "culprit".....lol]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20302105 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 11:42:44 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20302096 patcat88 : »www.motorola.com/business/v/inde···b00aRCRD

this thing?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20302096 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 11:41:12 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20301889 anon : This doesn't sound like anything that cable can't do. They've done it already. This was done in Chicago. My friend had Basic expanded service with a Scientific Atlantic (analog) box. Not too long ago they had to give up that box for a new one, its the new (Motorola?) small radar detector shaped digital boxes.

This is not my only biases for this, its actually the second behind reading and article that was posted here about the change.

I believe the providers are still required to carry the broadcast of analog channels and to support or make their service available to analog sets. I haven't read any law but so far this seems to be put into practice as in allowing accessing to your "cable" service with no extra cost need for basic analog type service, IE: if all you have is non digital (maybe 120 or less channels) service then there has to be some sort of possible use of the service without a box rental fee. This does not seem to mean that you need to carry channels in an analog format.

It's all a bit confusing, just as it is for most people with HD that have to understand you need four parts of the pie to watch HD, The TV, The service, The channel, and the program. If you are missing any you get something less than HD.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20301889 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 11:08:55 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20301875 MyDogHsFleas :
said by N3OGH See Profile :

I'm ignorant on the whole subject of STB's with integrated security, and the associated "bannage".
The FCC's direction is to separate the application functionality of the STB from the component that secures the communication (i.e. makes sure the user is entitled to receive what they are receiving, and tries to prevent piracy via encryption or other techniques). Their goal is to open up the STB market for third parties, by forcing the providers to sell a separate security device to their customers, and allowing their customers to hook up other STBs to that security device. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20301875 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 11:06:08 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20301789 kontos :
said by N3OGH See Profile :

I'm ignorant on the whole subject of STB's with integrated security, and the associated "bannage".

Could someone fill me in?
In a nutshell, VZ made a deal with the FCC. They agreed to give away free STBs to customers in exchange for the FCC granting them permission to stop sending analog/unencrypted video to their customers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20301789 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 10:51:18 EDT Re: hmm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20301660 N3OGH : "Verizon had cut a deal with the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to cease analog transmission prior to the 2009 date in exchange for a waiver exempting it from the ban on set-top boxes (STBs) with integrated security, which was put into effect in July."

I'm ignorant on the whole subject of STB's with integrated security, and the associated "bannage".

Could someone fill me in?
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Why is it that verizon gets exempt but cable doesn't?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20301591 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 10:14:18 EDT