Re: Why would I pay $45 - $50 in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20304423 en Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:47:49 EDT Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:47:49 EDT Re: Why would I pay $45 - $50 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20310912 patcat88 :
said by Whoisgoingto :

said by patcat88 See Profile :

Vonage and other VOIP will fall apart on a overloaded node or be subject to throttling/rolling slow downs. Cable VOIP will never experience that, either it runs in its own DOCSIS channel, or it kicks internet traffic off (QOS) including Vonage if there is a bandwidth crunch. Then again, the vast majority of people will never be on an overloaded node.

So you're saying that the cable company is going to throttle Vonage over their own VoIP product. Sounds like a network neutrality violation to me. Let the consumer decide what it wants to throttle.
No Mr. Troll. Reading comprehension is essential.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20310912 Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:56:04 EDT Re: Why would I pay $45 - $50 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20307707 anon :
said by patcat88 See Profile :

Vonage and other VOIP will fall apart on a overloaded node or be subject to throttling/rolling slow downs. Cable VOIP will never experience that, either it runs in its own DOCSIS channel, or it kicks internet traffic off (QOS) including Vonage if there is a bandwidth crunch. Then again, the vast majority of people will never be on an overloaded node.

So you're saying that the cable company is going to throttle Vonage over their own VoIP product. Sounds like a network neutrality violation to me. Let the consumer decide what it wants to throttle.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20307707 Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:40:15 EDT Re: Why would I pay $45 - $50 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20307678 anon : I've never had a problem. I don't use Vonage, but Packet8 has been fine for 2 years. This COULD happen, but hasn't. It's certainly not worth double the price.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20307678 Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:34:30 EDT Re: Why would I pay $45 - $50 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20306746 jonnyb : your not that bright Sir., your a fool if you go and get Vontage for around 25$ you still need an HSI internet connection which will run you 45$ oh look now you at 70$ plus voip from most cable providers have Qos (quality of service) Vontage does not and if you have a problem with Vontage GOOD LUCK....so that is why you would pay $45-$50 or even more K]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20306746 Wed, 09 Apr 2008 07:41:02 EDT Re: Why would I pay $45 - $50 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20306371 patcat88 : Vonage and other VOIP will fall apart on a overloaded node or be subject to throttling/rolling slow downs. Cable VOIP will never experience that, either it runs in its own DOCSIS channel, or it kicks internet traffic off (QOS) including Vonage if there is a bandwidth crunch. Then again, the vast majority of ppl will never be on an overloaded node.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20306371 Wed, 09 Apr 2008 02:10:36 EDT Re: Why would I pay $45 - $50 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20304680 en102 : Yeah, and Skypeout is $3/month, and includes video conferencing
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From the end user perspective, the calls are great. Actually, my mother uses TWC VoIP in OH, and her calls are much worse than mine. The behind the scenes technology is not important to the end user. As an IT person, I can tell you that all the customer wants is for something to work and do what THEY want it to do.... They leave the details to us.

If you want to try TRUE business class VoIP you'll go Cisco or Avaya, or whatever other company you want and leave the cableco out of the loop. The only business I see that would use cable would be a really small one without ANY IT department worth their pay... Even then, they would likely opt for at least DSL and one of the 3rd party companies...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20304158 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:01:10 EDT Re: Why would I pay $45 - $50 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20304142 anon : that not the same of cable voip. cable voip run throught a privat network the company own. voip like att callvantage and vontage go through the public internet service. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20304142 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:58:25 EDT Re: Why would I pay $45 - $50 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20303826 Jerm : Why would you pay $25 even?

I use metered VOIP and @ $0.01 a minute and $1.75/month for my phone number my bill ends up being $3-5 a month.

And then there's gimmick voip like magicjack (what I'll use when the kids are old enough to eat minutes for breakfast) where you pay $40/year unlimited.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20303826 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:53:29 EDT Re: Why would I pay $45 - $50 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20303747 zed260 : i pay 19.99 a month for charter phone ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20303747 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:40:06 EDT Why would I pay $45 - $50 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20303659 lew_jean : Why would I want to pay $45.00 - $50.00 when their are other that are better for less....
AT&T Callvantage $25.00
Vontage for ao\round $25.00]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20303659 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:25:53 EDT