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DJ MASACRE

@teksavvy.com
reply to CanadianISP
Re: Help CAIP in it's CRTC submission re throttling via Bell

Finally, its done

If you get the error, keep trying .. or try later.. I went home from work and tried it and it went ok ...

I used Mozilla 3 Beta 5 at home and it worked ok ..

so keep trying .


sondatch

@bell.ca
reply to CanadianISP
done.

JC

join:2007-11-10
Ajax, ON
 reply to CanadianISP
Done.


tigerzh

@inter.net
 reply to CanadianISP
Done!


Fed Up

join:2007-02-19
m4m2v
·Bell Sympatico

reply to CanadianISP
Anyone else notice that their name is not appearing in the list of people commenting.

I have submitted mine twice, get the immediate confirmation but have yet to see it recorded into the list.

»www.crtc.gc.ca/public/partvii/20···_com.htm

Also, why does the form have asterisks for required information then still asks for an email or phone number that was not asterisked.

Are they purposely ignoring peoples comments if they do not provide 'enough' information

blastedadsl

join:2008-04-12
Montreal, QC

said by Fed Up See Profile :

Anyone else notice that their name is not appearing in the list of people commenting.

I have submitted mine twice, get the immediate confirmation but have yet to see it recorded into the list.

»www.crtc.gc.ca/public/partvii/20···_com.htm
You bet. Notice how short a list you have there? It should be MUCH longer by now. I have no idea why or how they filter online comments.


shwing
A Sphincter Says What ?

join:2002-11-14
reply to CanadianISP
Done


Morganlefay

@bryston.ca
reply to CanadianISP
Done


Abattoir

join:2008-03-27
Ottawa, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Cogeco Cable
·Bell Sympatico

reply to Fed Up
said by Fed Up See Profile :

Anyone else notice that their name is not appearing in the list of people commenting.

I have submitted mine twice, get the immediate confirmation but have yet to see it recorded into the list.

»www.crtc.gc.ca/public/partvii/20···_com.htm

Also, why does the form have asterisks for required information then still asks for an email or phone number that was not asterisked.

Are they purposely ignoring peoples comments if they do not provide 'enough' information
I provided all the information required, and my comments were also not included. I would question their entire data collection. They should have hundreds of such comments by now.


anon name

@teksavvy.com
reply to CanadianISP
Done. But my name isnt on the list either.


sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
H0H 0H0
Definitely a few days behind


wait4Monday

@videotron.ca
mine is there, but I added a bit more to make it a tiny bit different.

Wonder if that matters?

cbp

join:2005-11-24
Montreal, QC

reply to CanadianISP
Btw, did anyone specify that throttling is bad for the environment?
Think about it... Now that we are throttled, we must leave our computers on all night.
My computer consumes at least 750W and now if everyone has to do this, it comes up to a huge electricity bill. Not just that, but my computer heats up my room by at least 5 degrees, which makes me turn on my air conditioner which in turn consumes a lot more.
Last time I checked we didn't have nuclear/solar power plants so the strain is on the coal/water plants.

Someone should send an email to the guy that invented the internet. (Al Gore)


jfmezei
Premium
join:2007-01-03
Beaconsfield, QC
·ELECTRONICBOX

reply to CanadianISP
The list of comments appears to be manually processed.

Note that comments would have a LOT MORE CREDIBILITY if they contained real names, adresses, at least the city and province.

99% of comments come from "alberta" and related to a service from bell canada.

This isn't some facebook bulletin board. This is serious business with the CRTC.


Cliffy
Premium
join:2003-06-29
Kitchener, ON
clubs:
I know I put the right province in and now it shows Alberta. I think there form was messed up.


Candoo3

join:2005-01-24
·TekSavvy Solutions..

said by Cliffy See Profile :

I know I put the right province in and now it shows Alberta. I think there form was messed up.
Same here


renton
Come On You Spurs
Premium
join:2002-01-05
North York, ON
reply to CanadianISP
Sent.

Kewjoe

join:2002-04-14
North York, ON
reply to CanadianISP
done.


Fishwallop

@radiolan.ca

reply to CanadianISP
it seems that if you don't fill in your address, you get listed as being from Alberta.

I submitted my comments today. It didn't quite fit into their 2000 character web form, so I put it in a PDF and submitted it as a signed letter:

I am writing to express my support for the Application that CAIP has filed with the CRTC regarding Bell Canada’s throttling practices.

Recently, I sought to replace Bell Sympatico as my DSL provider when Bell's throttle interfered with my legitimate and legal use of my internet connection during the period that I am actually interested in using my "unlimited high speed internet" - the evenings, when I am at home.

After I had selected a replacement, an independent DSL provider, and after I had ordered a modem for use with their service, I discovered that Bell had started to throttle traffic on my choice of replacement ISP. As a result, my incentive to switch ISPs was greatly reduced, and I remain (for the time being) with Bell Sympatico.

However, I am deeply concerned by Bell Canada’s throttling practices, and their impact on the competitive supply of high speed residential internet in Canada.

I understand Bell's position to be that the throttle was implemented to manage increasing network traffic. Leaving aside the question over whether throttling, as opposed to increasing capacity, is a desirable response to capacity problems, Bell's throttling practices smell of a strategic effort to degrade the competitors' service in order to prevent the independent ISPs from offering a better product than that of Sympatico, rather than a legitimate attempt to manage the network.

For example, Bell's throttle turns on at a fixed time, turns off at a fixed time, and caps speeds at a fixed rate. Between 4 p.m. and 2 a.m., my downloads are capped at 30 kb/s. This throttle does not vary with actual conditions: if Bell had actually intended its throttle to perform some equitable redistribution of scarce bandwidth, it would dynamically react to the load on the network, allowing greater speeds when resources were available and lesser speeds when resources were tight.

Sympatico advertises itself as "consistently fast" internet. Bell is half right: Sympatico is consistent. But when I, and others like me, seek to hold Bell to the balance of its promise, or find another provider who does offer "consistently fast" internet, we find that Bell has found a way to bring its competitors down to its level.

I implore the CRTC to intervene and enjoin Bell from throttling third party ISPs. Even if Bell is allowed to peer deep into its own user's packets and hold up those it deems unworthy of "consistently fast" service, it should not be permitted to tamper with other ISP's efforts to provide Canadians with the consistently fast internet services that Canadian consumers want and need.

Yours very truly,

[signed]

Wow. That felt even better than voting.


dnguyen

@teksavvy.com
reply to CanadianISP
Ditto.
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