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| reply to justin Re: Conerning The On Going Denial of Service Attacks Today.
thanks Justin, that answer makes me feel better. through all of this, my worry has been that you would decide all this trouble just isn't worth it, and take the site down. then i would have to find a REAL life.
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1 edit | reply to GotGhosts said by GotGhosts :said by justin :I appreciate very much the support but please save your money there isn't any financial loss or deficit from this incident at least not one that I care about ... I was long over due in showing my appreciation and support to dslreports. ... If nothing else, the show of support/appreciation will let who ever is DDoSing DSLReports know that there is a Distributed Network of Supporters (DNoS) willing to help out. If the person(s) behind the DDoSing are financially wise; they will soon realize that they are pissing away their money. -- Do yourself a favor, just say no to anything Windows. |
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  jaykaykay 4 Ever Young Premium,MVM join:2000-04-13 Scottsdale, AZ | And pissing off a whole lot of users, regulars as well as welcome visitors!  |
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  Thug21 Just Chillin' Premium join:2005-08-21 1 edit | And admitting that DSLR owns them so they resort to such (DDos) nonsense.  |
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1 edit | said by Thug21 :And admitting that DSLR owns them so they resort to such (DDos) nonsense.  Great point, I had never thought of it that way! POWNed by their own obsession, I like it.
Maybe they should heed the wisdom from the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition: Rule #118 - There is no profit in revenge.
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| said by astirusty :Rule #118 - There is no profit in revenge. There is often profit from revenge: the lesson it gives others who might someday wish to engage in the avenged activity. |
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1 edit | reply to astirusty said by astirusty :If the person(s) behind the DDoSing are financially wise; they will soon realize that they are pissing away their money. Except that they aren't using their money or internet connections..that's the point. They use mainly use compromised PC's. Thus, it's someone else's money.
Heck, they are probably making money off of the malware on there already.

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| said by caffeinator :Except that they aren't using their money or internet connections..that's the point. I was going by the prior speculation that the person(s) had paid for the attack possibly via RBN. Even if it is their own BOT net, they are still wasting the BOT nets resources DDoSing DSLReports vs. its normal business ($$$) purpose. -- Do yourself a favor, just say no to anything Windows. |
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 Kiwi Premium join:2003-05-26 USA | That would be like an investment, except now the publicity from this wee effort will actually do what turds don't want -High profiling. |
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| reply to Steve said by Steve :There is often profit from revenge: the lesson it gives others who might someday wish to engage in the avenged activity. I disagree with the "often" part. That kind of revenge lesson has failure modes. It can cause people to be better prepared, it can cause people to rally, it can fail if others see the target survive. -- Do yourself a favor, just say no to anything Windows. |
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| said by astirusty : I disagree with the "often" part. Your points are all thoughtful ones, though it's curious to see you change your tone from "never"  |
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  Its a Secret Whatever Premium join:2008-02-23 U B Funny | reply to zbestwun2001 I learned a long time ago never, ever say 'never'. Never is a long time...  -- A triple espresso, please... |
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1 edit | reply to Kiwi said by Kiwi :That would be like an investment, except now the publicity from this wee effort will actually do what turds don't want -High profiling. I'd disagree. Everyone already knows about them. (in a general sense, of course)
But, what's a commonality to any business venture?
Selling a product/service and getting the word out.
AKA...Advertising. The 'ol "look what we can do" stuff.
We do that rather well with our high Google ranks and immediate rush of feedback from everyone from ElReg to Wilders. You can't pay for this kind of exposure.
People still talk about the attacks on GRC years later..in the Net, that's immortality..and in the right circles..profit.
Perhaps them doing this to BBR is just an excercise?
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| reply to Steve said by Steve :... though it's curious to see you change your tone from "never"  Change in tone? Whatever... -- Do yourself a favor, just say no to anything Windows. |
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1 edit | reply to caffeinator ..I'll disagree right back, these people rely on web sites to fool people into the release of valuable information and trojan placement. If their 'Business model' and sites are highlighted, that can only serve to destroy the hidden value of a wolf in sheep clothing.
It's really not about a DDoS attack on this site, it's that several valuable members here have high profiled a Mafia organization, not something these scum want. Or the end result of this attack would not have occurred in the first place. |
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| reply to astirusty said by astirusty : If the person(s) behind the DDoSing are financially wise; they will soon realize that they are pissing away their money. I think you make a grave mistake in thinking that these people are dumb. I'd imagine that they know exactly what they're doing and have a good reason for it.
Don't underestimate your adversary.
As far as I can tell, there is little downside to this and only upside. You can only guess who they are (not exactly evidence), and even if you catch them, what then?
I don't like this any more than you do, but I call them as I see them. They've made their point to me that nothing is 100% secure, not even a security site. |
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| DSLR reports is still secured. Let me do the honours of an analogy. A cop has to go between point A and B, at a point in the road there is a large tree across it, did the cop fail to progress to point B, yes, is the cop compromised; only stopped. Nothing wrong with him/her the car/bike, just the means to get to point B. The cop calls ahead 
Nothing was breached here at DSLR reports.
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| reply to CallingItAsItIs said by CallingItAsItIs :
I don't like this any more than you do, but I call them as I see them. They've made their point to me that nothing is 100% secure, not even a security site. You would have to be living under a rock to even "assume" that at anytime any site is safe..much less your own system..this is the internet...software..code..and any of it can be manipulate and humans by nature are always a target of "Social engineering"..it is just more high tech now. -- Gladiator Security Forum »www.gladiator-antivirus.com/ * A fun/friendly/informative forum for the mature elder crowd »www.theover50goldengroup.net
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| reply to CallingItAsItIs said by CallingItAsItIs :
I think you make a grave mistake in thinking that these people are dumb. Did I say I they were dumb? -- Nope -- -- Do yourself a favor, just say no to anything Windows. |
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