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VZ_FiOS

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Using a server on FiOS?

What is needed to be able to run a server on FiOS?


Telcoguru
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join:2005-08-22
Fresh Meadows, NY
A business account.


PetePuma
How many lumps do you want
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join:2002-06-13
Arlington, VA
reply to VZ_FiOS
What kind of server?

Though technically against the TOS, many people run low-volume servers on residential accounts (i.e. SSH, FTP, HTTP, etc.)

The only allowed way is with a business acct with IIRC a static IP address.


VZ_FiOS

@myvzw.com
reply to VZ_FiOS
How about on a residential account instead of a business account? I don't see the value in upgrading to a business account just to run a server.

Are there any configurations needed to run a server on a residential account?


darcilicious
Cyber Librarian
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·Comcast


edit:
April 11th, @08:33AM

said by VZ_FiOS :

Are there any configurations needed to run a server on a residential account?
As already stated, you can go against the TOS for a residential account and run a server. Now. As in: right now. Stop reading this, move a way from your browser, and have at it

However, port 80 is blocked. You can set up a web server to use port 80 but it will never ever see any external traffic. So set it up to use a different port.

EDIT: Oh and you might want to use a service like dyndns.org to map your technically dynamic IP to a hostname and get a client that will automatically update dyndns.org when your IP changes.

rhard49

join:2001-04-12
Merrick, NY
·Verizon FIOS

reply to VZ_FiOS
I'm sure plenty of people are running game and other servers on fios residential accounts, but it is against the TOS so they have every right to warn you, or make you remove it, or terminate your service if your usage is abusive, or illegal. I ran a personal ftp for years so I would have access to files and tools I may not have with me when I went to clients, as there was no business service. Visit some of the Dynamic DNS sites like no-ip and they will give you some insight on getting around certain ports that are blocked for your benefit like port 80 and port 25.
I don't know how experienced or old you are but you should search RIAA and read about the people being sued. There general consenus is now its illegal to RIP a music CD and have it on your computer.


darcilicious
Cyber Librarian
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·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast

said by rhard49 See Profile :

There general consenus is now its illegal to RIP a music CD and have it on your computer.
General consensus by whom?

This would make every iPod, mp3 player, mobile phone (which can play songs), Apple's iTunes software (with the feature to rip music built-in!), etc illegal as well. I think you've drastically overstated the case.


VZ_FiOS

@myvzw.com
reply to darcilicious
Thanks for the info about port 80 and using a service like dyndns.org.

Are there any changes needed to run e-mail on the server with FiOS, such as ports being blocked?

ProFiOSDude
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join:2005-05-27
Chesapeake, VA
Yes, a business account to run email server.

PFD

rhard49

join:2001-04-12
Merrick, NY
reply to darcilicious
By these idiots as always
»RIAA Says You Can’t Copy Music To Your Computer


darcilicious
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·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast

said by rhard49 See Profile :

By these idiots as always
»RIAA Says You Can’t Copy Music To Your Computer
First, the RIAA doesn't make it a "general consensus". It's one organization. Secondly, not all court cases have ruled in favor of the RIAA's assertion: »New Ruling A Win Or Loss For RIAA?. Last but not least, it's not "on the computer" -- copyrighted materials would have to be in a folder that you make available for public sharing.

See also: »www.techdirt.com/articles/200804···20.shtml which mentions, "The RIAA likes to claim that this is settled law -- but it is not. "

Either way it is still perfectly legal to rip CDs (and DVDs and LPs) for personal use.

As I said, you really overstated the case.

birdfeedr
Premium
join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI
·Verizon FIOS

said by darcilicious See Profile :

Either way, it is still perfectly legal to rip CDs (and DVDs and LPs) for personal use.

As I said, you really overstated the case.
Fair use is not in the RIAA's vocabulary. And as far as *they* are concerned, rhard49 has it right, it's only about what the RIAA says. That's what makes it a general consensus, at least among those in the boardroom. If they can get away with it, they'll have everyone believing it's "listen once, buy again."

Back on topic: There are workarounds for a lot of servers, but the email server would be the toughest to implement trouble-free on a residential account. To the OP, except for a game server, why not go with a hosting package with your own domain? FTP, HTTP, and SMTP for a simple system can be had for less than $100/year. Fast pipe in to the datacenter. Reasonably trouble-free. Tech support available.

nozzer

join:2004-06-25
Waltham, MA
·Verizon FIOS

reply to ProFiOSDude
said by ProFiOSDude See Profile :

Yes, a business account to run email server.

PFD
Even with Business FiOS you would need to relay your outbound mail through Verizons servers, because the entire FiOS IP block is on most blacklists as likely sources of spam.

rhard49

join:2001-04-12
Merrick, NY
·Verizon FIOS

Buzzz wrong! I've benn running a web and mail server for over a year without a problem. I've also moved several clients to the business service running Exchange or Lotus Notes Servers without a problem. There is a difference between mail being bounced because its on a dynamic ip and a blacklist.
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