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Thespis
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Re: Tivo blows

said by KrK See Profile :

This one is. Obviousness is supposed to be a consideration. And TIVO was well behind ReplayTV.
Both companies were created in 1997.
Replay TV launched two months before Tivo.
I'll let others judge if two months is "well behind".


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said by Thespis See Profile :

I'll let others judge if two months is "well behind".
True, but prior art is prior art, and once the first DVR features were being created, the so called "Time-warp" feature becomes an obvious extension of the technology. In reality, all these DVR's (ReplayTV, TIVO, Echostar's) were being developed with similar features by different people at the same time. Nobody "stole" anything. TIVO just got the patent on a "feature" and is going sue happy.
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Thespis
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Echostar?
E*'s first DVR (they actually called it a PVR) was the DishPlayer 2400. It came out about the same time as Tivo. It was a piece of crap that ran Microsoft software and had to be babysat daily. It also had a whopping 8 hours of record time. I sold mine on Ebay for a tidy sum.
The DVR that E* was sued over was the one they developed in house well after Tivo was established with DirecTV.


KrK
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Yes, I stated that already.... However, the feature the patent and lawsuit is based on was already in use and had been developed by other DVR's.

I'm not disagreeing that TIVO got the patent, I just think the patent should be invalidated... which of course would end the lawsuit. Unlikely to occur as well. Echostar is getting ripped off.
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Thespis
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Echostar violated a valid patent. Period.
They are not getting ripped off.
Corporations can't just disregard patent law because they think a patent should never have been given.
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