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Snickerdo
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Niagara Falls, ON

reply to DKS
Re: ARRGH! False 911 Calls

said by DKS See Profile :

Those issues are between OSPS and Bell, however.
Yup, which is why you should sit down with a glass of Niagara's finest wine, relax, and enjoy the fact that tonight the police won't come a knocking and that it's over once and for all.
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HiVolt
29
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Toronto, ON
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said by DKS See Profile :

I am currently in the 3 meg profile and will keep checking for the 5 meg profile. I know that when the pairs were changed, the profile was also changed. The pairs will have to be reconfigured at the CO before anything can be done.
During the troubleshooting they moved your DSL to dryloop, have you kept it this way?
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DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
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join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
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·Bell Sympatico

said by HiVolt See Profile :

said by DKS See Profile :

I am currently in the 3 meg profile and will keep checking for the 5 meg profile. I know that when the pairs were changed, the profile was also changed. The pairs will have to be reconfigured at the CO before anything can be done.
During the troubleshooting they moved your DSL to dryloop, have you kept it this way?
No. It's back to the regular line and been for a couple of weeks.
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Kringle
Dr.D
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Pierrefonds, QC
reply to DKS
So glad to hear that it finally seems to be over. You've been a very patient man! My hat's off to you.


DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
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join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
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·Bell Sympatico

said by Kringle See Profile :

So glad to hear that it finally seems to be over. You've been a very patient man! My hat's off to you.
Thank you. I must say that Bell has been exceptionally professional in all of this, once I got through the call centers in India and was dealing with people actually able to do the required inquiry. I have also been told that this issue and the correspondence (as well as this thread) will be used as a case study at several levels within Bell.
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DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
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Owen Sound, ON
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Just received confirmation that I will receive credit for three months of service; ALL services including internet, phone and ExpressVu. That is nearly $600. That's very generous.
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HiVolt
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said by DKS See Profile :

Just received confirmation that I will receive credit for three months of service; ALL services including internet, phone and ExpressVu. That is nearly $600. That's very generous.
Oh, that's much better.
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SIX BIG ONES

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THE BEER IS ON DKS!


Jim Gurd
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Plymouth, MI
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 reply to DKS
I've been lurking in this thread for a while. Did they ever actually tell you what the underlying cause was for the problem?
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DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
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Owen Sound, ON
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·Bell Sympatico

said by Jim Gurd See Profile :

I've been lurking in this thread for a while. Did they ever actually tell you what the underlying cause was for the problem?
Nope. I don't think they know.
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DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
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Owen Sound, ON
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reply to DKS
Still waiting for my DSL speed to be returned to pre-event conditions. That being said, I have an appointment tomorrow for a DSL specialist to come and take a look at the inside wiring. I'll keep folks posted.
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HiVolt
29
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Toronto, ON
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·TekSavvy Solutions..

said by DKS See Profile :

Still waiting for my DSL speed to be returned to pre-event conditions. That being said, I have an appointment tomorrow for a DSL specialist to come and take a look at the inside wiring. I'll keep folks posted.
Did you ask the guys in the direct forum to check out your line stats?

BTW, did bell switch you to the original copper loop at the end of this fiasco, or are you on that longer loop that you could only get 3meg on?
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DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
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Owen Sound, ON
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·Bell Sympatico

said by HiVolt See Profile :

said by DKS See Profile :

Still waiting for my DSL speed to be returned to pre-event conditions. That being said, I have an appointment tomorrow for a DSL specialist to come and take a look at the inside wiring. I'll keep folks posted.
Did you ask the guys in the direct forum to check out your line stats?
Yes. I have a printout, as well as the stats when I was on the 5056/800 profile. I'm currently on 3008/768 profile.

BTW, did bell switch you to the original copper loop at the end of this fiasco, or are you on that longer loop that you could only get 3meg on?
They haven't changed anything since they switched to the longer loop.
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HiVolt
29
Premium
join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
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·TekSavvy Solutions..

3008/768? are you sure about the 768 on the upstream? if the stats read that as your sync rate, that means the modem is not syncing at the full 800kbit upstream. I've seen this at a few places, and double-filtering phones sometimes fixes the issue.

But regardless, the bigger issue is 5meg... I suppose they can't just switch you back to the old pair that had a shorter run to the CO?

BTW, I still suggest you ask Bell to simply switch your DSL to dry-loop, and it will have to be on a separate pair to the CO. Bell doesn't charge band rate for Sympatico dry-loop.
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DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
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Owen Sound, ON
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·Bell Sympatico

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said by HiVolt See Profile :

3008/768? are you sure about the 768 on the upstream? if the stats read that as your sync rate, that means the modem is not syncing at the full 800kbit upstream. I've seen this at a few places, and double-filtering phones sometimes fixes the issue.
Yes. I'm sure. Stats posted above.

But regardless, the bigger issue is 5meg... I suppose they can't just switch you back to the old pair that had a shorter run to the CO?
That's what I'm hoping for.

BTW, I still suggest you ask Bell to simply switch your DSL to dry-loop, and it will have to be on a separate pair to the CO. Bell doesn't charge band rate for Sympatico dry-loop.
That may also be a possibility.

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HiVolt
29
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Toronto, ON
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·TekSavvy Solutions..

Hmm.... at 3008 down you have 19dB SNR... Have the guys from the direct forum actually tried setting it to 5056/800 or even 4032/800 see what the actual SNR is? sometimes the "attainable rate" is quite misleading. There's also a gap in your downstream graph, if eliminated that would probably help to push you to back to 5meg...

As for the 768k upstream... Thats' most likely something on your inside wiring...

I'm interested what the "specialist" will have to say.
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DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
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Owen Sound, ON
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said by HiVolt See Profile :

I'm interested what the "specialist" will have to say.
He'll probably say nothing. I'm back on the 5056/800 profile. Thanks, Bell_Martin .
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hmmm

@videotron.ca

I don't know if its worth even mentioning... but from your last two posts have you noticed the upstream value?

In the fist post of your stats you have an upstream of 768. Is 768 even a profile? Its not one I recall as seeing as being a standard profile.

If its giving errors and sync'ing at whatever it can, is it worth it to take a step down on the upstream profile???

Thats a question I would ask (if the errors are up there).


DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
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join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
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·Bell Sympatico

said by hmmm :

I don't know if its worth even mentioning... but from your last two posts have you noticed the upstream value?

In the fist post of your stats you have an upstream of 768. Is 768 even a profile? Its not one I recall as seeing as being a standard profile.

If its giving errors and sync'ing at whatever it can, is it worth it to take a step down on the upstream profile???

Thats a question I would ask (if the errors are up there).
Yes, it's synching at 768. I'm not worried, though. And I'll wait and see what the Bell DSL tech says tomorrow.
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DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
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join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
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reply to DKS
And here is the speed test. All back to normal.


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