Nordberg
join:2008-04-14
Dresden, ON
| Few Questions On Picking A New Provider...
Well been with Bell for many years, have had many problems, mainly throttling, been doing it to me for too long...
I do a lot of gaming and downloading. Unlimited bandwidth is a must. Also not sure whether to get a landline or Voip/Skype, now that would also factor in for regular or dry dsl.
I have narrowed my choices to 4 places,
TekSavvy(everywhere I read these are the guys to get, plus the newsgroups for the price of a static ip is sweet)
Execulink(comes with newsgroups, plus seems reliable and fast from what I have read)
Kelcom(know nothing about them, just seem to have fast speeds)
Acanac(doesnt seem to be liked on the DigitalHome.ca forums, but their deals are amazing, and have some very cool sounding stuff offered to clients)
I would love to get Cogeco for their speeds but I have read nothing but bad about them, plus my friend just got a letter from them about downloading movies(scare tactic if you ask me) but I dont want that crap. Been downloading for many more years then he has an never got a letter ever.
Kelcom seems to be the only one where I would need a landline all others I could have Dry DSL(which is looking very good match with skype pro or a voip package).
Any feedback would be great, oh ya I am moving to Chatham ON if that helps any, thanks! |
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nanook
ex redbaron
Premium
join:2007-12-02
 ·Bell Sympatico
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| said by Nordberg  :Any feedback would be great, oh ya I am moving to Chatham ON if that helps any, thanks! One of the advantages of living in Dresden and especially Chatham is that if you have any problems with your DSL service it is not a long drive to TekSavvy HQ where you can take up the issue with your ISP in person 
P.S. Bring a few bananas and they'll do almost anything 
P.P.S. TekSavvy now offers landlines as well as DSL. Check out the threads on the TekSavvy forum. You may find that what you save on a dry DSL line makes a "wet" landline competitive with VoIP. |
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The Flash
You don't win friends with salad
Premium
join:2002-10-17
Toronto, ON | Is the term "wet dsl" correct? Sounds funny. |
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nanook
ex redbaron
Premium
join:2007-12-02
·Bell Sympatico
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| Well if it is not "dry" then it must be at least "damp" if not completely "wet." The other term that is used for DSL service on a landline that does not also provide POTS is "naked" DSL or more precisely "naked DSL on a dry loop." That conjures up even funnier images. |
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The Flash
You don't win friends with salad
Premium
join:2002-10-17
Toronto, ON | Then I have fully clothed DSL. |
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sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
H0H 0H0
 ·Rogers Hi-Speed
Host:
Rogers
Bell Canada
| reply to Nordberg
There's no qualifier for a DSL connection line that is on an active POTS phone line.
The term dry loop is now largely related to the provision of DSL services, but in fact it is the term for any unused telephone circuit.
The term comes from the belief that without power flowing through the circuit, the connections on the loop become "dry" and unreliable, often leading to crackle when re-energised after a period of disuse.
The term "dry" comes from the soldering wires proces. When you make a solder connection of two wires or wire and terminal and you don't have the solder flow well over the joint ... the joint doesn't have the characteristic "wet and shiny" look, but instead looks granular and "dry". Such soldered connections are usually unreliable and poor quality and called a dry joint.
POTS workers borrowed the term for similar problems on phone circuits ... either because of dry joint splices or unreliable punchdown connections or screw terminal connections. Such connections were called dry.
The way to avoid problems was supposedly to run a small current through the loop. For critical connections some telcos will still run tiny currents through unused spare loops to prevent dry loops.
So, strictly the service you want is naked dsl which is DSL without local loop POTS service, and this is provided over a dry loop. |
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CanerisErik
Premium
join:2007-10-03
Toronto, ON | reply to Nordberg
How about we stick to "unbundled loop"?
dry loop = unbundled loop |
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Nordberg
join:2008-04-14
Dresden, ON
edit:
April 14th, @05:46PM
| reply to Nordberg
thanks nanook and sbrook!
well I have decided on TekSavvy for my phone and dsl...
I was wondering if anybody has tried these?:
»www.acanac.ca/Webhosting.html
»www.hivebox.net/plans.html
»www.br-hosting.com/en/torrentflux.php
»www.wsservers.com/awbs/vps/
»geekrack.net/virtual.php
or if they could tell me somewhere I could get a decent vps/seedbox for fairly cheap $25/mth....any help would be great thanks!!! I will be using it for uploading torrents.
thanks again! |
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nanook
ex redbaron
Premium
join:2007-12-02
·Bell Sympatico
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to sbrook
said by sbrook :There's no qualifier for a DSL connection line that is on an active POTS phone line... The Flash and I were mostly joking about the quaintness of the terminology.
The term comes from the belief that without power flowing through the circuit, the connections on the loop become "dry" and unreliable, often leading to crackle when re-energised after a period of disuse. I can believe "belief" but I would like to see proof before I will believe that is factual Why should current need to flow through wiring in order not to become unreliable? I have electronic gear that has been unused for years or even decades that works just fine. Indeed a much more likely cause of failure in old electronics is that electrolytic capacitors dry out (literally) often as a result of electrolyte leakage (which if it comes in contact with wiring could corrode it.)
The term "dry" comes from the soldering wires proces. When you make a solder connection of two wires or wire and terminal and you don't have the solder flow well over the joint ... the joint doesn't have the characteristic "wet and shiny" look, but instead looks granular and "dry". Such soldered connections are usually unreliable and poor quality and called a dry joint. Actually that describes a "cold" solder joint (although I admit that I have heard the term "dry" sometimes used as well.) From Wikipedia:
quote:
The most common defect when hand-soldering results from the parts being joined not exceeding the solder's liquidus temperature, resulting in a "cold solder" joint.
But we are indeed digressing way beyond DSL line terminology |
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mlerner
Premium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
| said by nanook :But we are indeed digressing way beyond DSL line terminology You guys lost me after DSL.  |
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nanook
ex redbaron
Premium
join:2007-12-02
·Bell Sympatico
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| said by mlerner :You guys lost me after DSL. I cannot speak for sbrook but I am just having fun with quaint-sounding terminology |
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