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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast


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reply to halfband
Re: WTF?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems you think that everyone everywhere will max out their pipes 24/7/365.

I pay for speed.
I broke 30GB(Thirty GigaBytes) one month!
I did that network-killing month back when I had the 8mbps service.

I now have a 16mbps connection.
My downloading has not increased, it's just that what I do download gets here twice as fast.

I do watch video, stream music(occasionally) and download movies.
I *DO NOT* download crap 24/7/365 just because I have a fast connection - I'm guessing there are a *couple* other people out there that also do not saturate the pipes 24/7/365.

So, a subscriber (where ever) of ____ ISP wants... a video.
____ ISP wants the provider(who also pays their monthly bill) to pay more just to get the subscriber the video in question?
Because it is going across their line?
The same line that the subscriber is paying for each month?

That's dirty!
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openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast

said by dadkins See Profile :

That's dirty!
Not really, it's simply another method to generate revenue. The key will be to see which content provider is the first to break and pay extra. If someone does pay the fee, expect a chain reaction leading to the ISPs winning. If nobody steps forward to pay extra, consumers can expect to see their monthly rates increase even more to compensate.


dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast

said by openbox9 See Profile :

said by dadkins See Profile :

That's dirty!
Not really, it's simply another method to generate revenue. The key will be to see which content provider is the first to break and pay extra. If someone does pay the fee, expect a chain reaction leading to the ISPs winning. If nobody steps forward to pay extra, consumers can expect to see their monthly rates increase even more to compensate.
No, it is dirty!
Raise the rates for service - fine!
Stating that unless the content provider pays more, speeds will be throttled is blackmail! aka extortion.

That's bullshit!
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Think outside the Fox... Opera


halfband
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Huntsville, AL


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said by dadkins See Profile :

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems you think that everyone everywhere will max out their pipes 24/7/365.
I probably was not clear. This is a problem with realtime viewing of video streams. The big growth in net content will be video streams at higher resolutions than the current youtube rate. And the biggest problem is with peak time demand for these streams. The existing net can handle most everything else now with speeds like comcast provides. Oddly enough P2P and some of the other methods of getting movie downloads are not the problem because they are not time sensitive streams, you queue up your downloads and watch later, slow peak time downloads are not an issue unless it stretches into days. [The major bittorrent issue is limited upstream on the shared part of cables last mile and has nothing to do with distribution neutrality.] As the network is used for more "video on demand" like content, the peak time delays cause problems that viewers are going to find unacceptable.
The true content manufacturers love the idea of both purchase by the view or subscription streaming video and advertising supported video streams [similar to the existing free tv channel model] since both bypasses the current distribution network moguls. They are developing more applications to sell their content over the net as each day goes by.
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hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
reply to dadkins
If you think its fine for providers to raise their rates. That's fine. But when they do; how many people that think that its a bunch of BS that they did this and how unfair it is? Are you going to be one of them?
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