LadyCash
Shibah
Premium
join:2003-03-13
43938/43952
 ·DIRECTV
 ·Comcast
 ·AT&T Midwest
| reply to tx_tower
Re: Dont think so
You have it right. P2P and the like effect Comcast customers. My biggest complaint is the time school lets out till about 1-2 am in the morning. My kids even complain. It comes to a crawl and/or during the mid point of that time frame.
NOTE: I do not allow P2P or anything like that on my computers. And I have complete control over the kids' computer. They cannot download or update anything. 
I live in a neighborhood with a good many kids (mostly teens). I figure the next neighborhood down the main drag is on our node also. They have a good number of kids. I am going to assume almost all of them are on Comcast HSI since DSL shortened their distance from CO and would not renew my contract. Therefore, either you are on Comcast HSI or dail-up. Most parents would get their little "Johnny" or "Susie" HSI, why they cannot let their little one be forced to use dail-up. *sarcasm*
A cyber pipe line can only handle so much. And if the guy before me opens his line full throttle then it will trinkle my way.
It is pretty bad when I need to do update my webpage and have to leave it run all night to get it down.
Of course I hope that will be different now that I upgraded to Blast. |
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koitsu
Premium
join:2002-07-16
Mountain View, CA
| reply to phattieg
said by phattieg  :I have not noticed a single problem with torrent files I receive or send to folks on the network myself. I can't reproduce it here (in the Bay Area) either, and I've spent quite a bit of time looking at layer 2-7 packets coming in off the wire.
All this means is that Comcast doesn't have a Sandvine configured for use, or possibly even deployed, in our areas. Nothing's stopping them from doing that, however, which is why I'm so concerned. ISPs being silent about such things doesn't sit well with me...  |
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fonzbear2000
Premium
join:2005-08-09
Saint Paul, MN
| reply to jt44
said by jt44 :
you dont like it because then you cant download song for free anymore. stop braking the law and pay for the music and videos you wants.
Tell the RIAA to stop being so greedy and lower prices and I'll stop getting free music.
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lordofwhee
join:2007-10-21
Everett, WA
| reply to ender7074
As has already been proved, ISPs are scared to death of being what a vast majority of consumers want them to be: a dumb pipe. If all they do is provide a fast, reliable connection, with no content, they make less money than a slow, intermittent-at-best connection with buttloads of content they get paid to have, and what company in the US (or, really, most countries) is going to do something because it's what's right/what the consumer wants? |
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Iagreewiththis
@comcast.net
| reply to root9
Comcast wants to make due with compression and limited connections to the CMTS's without having to spend extra for a bigger pipe to the customers area.
Docsis 3.0 is going to be a joke. The current connections can't handle the bandwidth requirements.
Capacity planning is still not going well and never will from what I can tell.
Yeah they will throttle your traffic because when they put 300-400 people on the same node all sharing the same pipe they have to. |
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espaeth
Digital Plumber
Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
 ·voip.ms
·Vitelity VOIP
·Callcentric
·VoiceStick
·ViaTalk
·Comcast
·Embarq
| reply to root9
said by root9 :good, and you realise that tudmax = senior network & systems analyst? Lots of people on this site claim to be network admins, technology professionals, BOFHs, etc. Who cares? Just look at the folks with Ph.Ds that found proof that Comcast was issuing TCP resets to all traffic, and only later had it pointed out to them that they were overrunning the NAT tables of SOHO routing devices.
If you want to be taken seriously, try posting something that is true and independently verifiable. Posting utter crap and then bragging about your glorious title just makes you a bigger joke. |
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Jovi
join:2000-02-24
Mount Joy, PA
 ·T-Mobile US
| reply to ender7074
said by ender7074 :How about you ISPs just concentrate on giving everyone a fast and reliable connection. That alone seems to be a pretty big task for you. Just concentrate on that. It's not your job to filter packets. I hear a bingo. 
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root9
join:2005-04-08
Kitchener, ON
2 edits | reply to bent
good, and you realise that tudmax = senior network & systems analyst?
also has worked on Canadian, US and European infrastructure, backbone and ISP level hosting, etc.
and do you realise that most major ISP's are pushing their contect, media and other crap across the wire while throttling rest of internet, which they shouldn't be since they are only an ISP?
I'll add: to have phone and internet on same line is ok, to also add TV, HDTV or any other crap is killing your internet by default.
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bent
not broken
Premium
join:2004-10-04
Loveland, CO
clubs:
·Comcast Formerly ..
| reply to root9
I don't usually do this, but:
ROFL!
all wired connections can handle 12 Mbps dwld & 3.5 Mbps uplds 24/7 with all users on at same time You do realize you are posting on a tech site, right? Spouting some BS like that might fly on www.bitkiddie.com, but not here.
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tx_tower
join:2007-11-13
Blanco, TX
| reply to ender7074
while i agree that comcasts practices are horrible; part of providing a fast and reliable connection is filtering and prioritizing, you people dont seem to understand what heavy p2p usage can do to a network, it essentially amounts to a low grade DoS attack by ones own customers.
A simple solution would be to limit the number of simultaneous connection an individual customer can make, outline this in the ToS along with the speed. problem solved
said by ender7074 :How about you ISPs just concentrate on giving everyone a fast and reliable connection. That alone seems to be a pretty big task for you. Just concentrate on that. It's not your job to filter packets. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | reply to root9
Umm, ok. I guess it must be so...because you say it should be. |
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root9
join:2005-04-08
Kitchener, ON
| reply to LeftOfSanity
Please go do some real studying instead of being fed by Big Business.
try:
Internet history
Internet Authority
Wikipedia
google articles related to infrastructure and network management
stats of all kinds
I've been dealing with Big Biz and their lies for over 40 yrs 
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bent
not broken
Premium
join:2004-10-04
Loveland, CO
clubs: | reply to LeftOfSanity
Straight out his ass...
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Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA | reply to bent
Why should it matter?
How many guns are used in shootings?
How many drunk drivers are drinking alclohol? Or driving cars?
Should we ban everything that could be used in an illegal act? |
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LeftOfSanity
join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE
| reply to root9
said by root9 :again bull ... all wired connections can handle 12 Mbps dwld & 3.5 Mbps uplds 24/7 with all users on at same time. Comcast has not been fixing their last mile and that's why they have bandwidth probs. It doesn't matter whether traffic is legit or not ,, PPL have rights. Internet was rejected by DOD and given to universities and likes so it can be used for FREE sharing of information for betterment of everyone on this planet! What? Where did you pull that info from? Or is that your opinion. |
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phattieg
join:2001-04-29
Winter Park, FL
·Verizon Wireless B..
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| reply to jt44
said by jt44 :
you dont like it because then you cant download song for free anymore. stop braking the law and pay for the music and videos you wants.
braking.... In a sentence...
I was braking real hard to avoid hitting the pedestrian.
breaking... In a sentence...
I feel like breaking your neck, but I would be breaking the law if I did that.
Gets them everytime, just like then, than, they're, there, their, etc... Sorry reading wasn't a favorite in school...
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root9
join:2005-04-08
Kitchener, ON
1 edit | reply to bent
again bull ... all wired connections can handle 12 Mbps dwld & 3.5 Mbps uplds 24/7 with all users on at same time.
Comcast has not been fixing their last mile and that's why they have bandwidth probs.
It doesn't matter whether traffic is legit or not ,, PPL have rights. Internet was rejected by DOD and given to universities and likes so it can be used for FREE sharing of information for betterment of everyone on this planet!
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phattieg
join:2001-04-29
Winter Park, FL
·Verizon Wireless B..
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| reply to koitsu
I have not noticed a single problem with torrent files I receive or send to folks on the network myself. I have been trying to catch this problem in the act, but maybe since I only download a torrent about once or twice a week, and they are about 2 gigs worth of info, I guess I am not being looked at. Or perhaps the 240 gigs of data that I don't really share because I don't want to be stupid and have the **AA's at me might be the reason. I don't know, what I DO know is I don't have any issues using BitTorrent clients. And you know, I have been an Azureus user for years, opting for that over BitTorrent because I like the interface better... Maybe thats why I don't have a problem, because they have some plugin that is suppose to work around it. Well, wait, no, this topic has been going on for a long time, but yet I have only recently got that plugin, so thats not it. And Ethereal on both my Linux box and my Windows machine are not showing RST packets. Sorry for you guys and your luck, maybe you have more traffic than me... Oh well, good luck
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root9
join:2005-04-08
Kitchener, ON
| reply to openbox9
These have been the rules all along, check your Internet history. All protocols fall under these roles
I don't care what Comcast says, they are wrong/illegal/immoral/unethical and that's final!
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bent
not broken
Premium
join:2004-10-04
Loveland, CO
clubs:
·Comcast Formerly ..
| reply to root9
said by root9 :4- protect "their own" network from attacks [user responsible for their own security] People saturating their connections 24/7 to share American Idol on a network not designed for 100% saturation, but peak usage, IS an attack.
You wanna make sure that the latest boy band singles are available to everyone for free? Pony up the $300 for a T1, and nobody is gonna care if you saturate it.
What I'd really like to see is a study showing how much p2p traffic is "legit" and how much of it is illegal sharing of copyrighted works.
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