 EGeezerSummertimePremium
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Re: Study Finds ISPs Fiddled with Web Pages I believe that happened with Prodigy in the early years, as well as NetZero, which used to be free in exchange for injecting ads into pages and emails.
This is a creeping phenomenon. First, put ads into free services, with paid access being ad-free. Then put ads into paid services and offer a "gold" or "Platinum" service that doesn't muck with your traffic. Just wait - you'll see ATT, Comcast, Earthlink, Charter et al offering "gold" access for ad-free protocol neutral bandwidth - for an increased price.
Then the cycle will start again.
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 VigThread-safe since 1997Premium
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San Diego, CA | said by EGeezer:This is a creeping phenomenon. First, put ads into free services, with paid access being ad-free. It happened with cable TV as well. The first subscribers had no commercials. After all, they were already paying for their TV content. Then the ads came later even though the customers were still paying for their connection.
The only surprise to me is that it's taken this long to start happening.
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 La LunaSurvived AshrafulPremium
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| said by Vig:It happened with cable TV as well. The first subscribers had no commercials. After all, they were already paying for their TV content. Then the ads came later even though the customers were still paying for their connection.... That still ticks me off. There are now just as many (if not more) commercials on cable tv as there is on network tv.....why am I paying to watch that crap?
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| said by La Luna:There are now just as many (if not more) commercials on cable tv as there is on network tv.....why am I paying to watch that crap? Satellite (DirecTV) is just as bad. DTV has now even started putting ADs in their show Guide as a large bar in place of a TV show listing.
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said by La Luna:said by Vig:It happened with cable TV as well. The first subscribers had no commercials. After all, they were already paying for their TV content. Then the ads came later even though the customers were still paying for their connection.... That still ticks me off. There are now just as many (if not more) commercials on cable tv as there is on network tv.....why am I paying to watch that crap? 100% agree with you. It becomes outrageous that now they contaminated cable TV with so many commercials, that I have to switch channels every 5 - 7 min to get rid of those annoying ads.
Why am I paying to watch that crap?
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La LunaSurvived AshrafulPremium
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1 edit | said by OZO:100% agree with you. It becomes outrageous that now they contaminated cable TV with so many commercials, that I have to switch channels every 5 - 7 min to get rid of those annoying ads. Why am I paying to watch that crap? I don't know. I've been asking that question for years. 
Switching channels doesn't even always help, they've got their commercials timed for pretty much the same time frames. An hour show seems to be 20 minutes of commercials and 40 minutes of show, if we're lucky. 
edit: back OT....I don't need any more ads, on the internet or anywhere else. We've already got more than we can stand being shoved down our throats.
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kudos:2 | said by La Luna:I don't need any more ads, on the internet or anywhere else. We've already got more than we can stand being shoved down our throats. I'm with you.
It may come to the point (and it's actually close to that now) when I consider to completely dump the cable TV service and move for the news and entertainment in the Internet... I'm already spending more time with and getting more info from the Internet. One thing is waiting to happen - I have to change my habits. But if I do, I'll not go back (watch me Comcast!) I'll use my TV set for local watch only (movies).
It becomes ridiculously stupid to me to pay $60 and try to skip 30% of whole TV time wasted on commercials. BTW, during the last 10 years Comcast has increased price for TV cable service from $25 to $60 (it's more then two times!) and, at the same time, the time for commercials has been increased to almost unbearable level as well...
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 ilagoPremium
join:2005-06-28
Australia | Advertisers must feel that advertising works and therefore more advertising must work better.
I'm getting a little tired of being regarded as some sort of gullible idiot that will buy anything if they can just corner me somehow to show me more pictures of their product
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 wapuBroadband RangerPremium
join:2001-09-05
Boca Raton, FL
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said by OZO:It becomes ridiculously stupid to me to pay $60 and try to skip 30% of whole TV time wasted on commercials. BTW, during the last 10 years Comcast has increased price for TV cable service from $25 to $60 (it's more then two times!) and, at the same time, the time for commercials has been increased to almost unbearable level as well... I too get annoyed at commercials. Sometimes when I am fast forwarding through them with my DVR I have to back up a little cause I fast forwarded into the show. 
We stopped watching "Live" TV on any regular basis a couple of years ago. Even if we are waiting for the new episode and are in the living room we will watch something else, DVRed, until the show is over. My daughters are only allowed one hour of TV on school days so they DVR what they want and then watch it then. They have mastered the FF through commercials, they can get through 3 half hour shows in their one hour.
back OT though, The major difference is that the revenue generated by the commercials running on cable go to benefit the show. There are a whole host of structures depending on First-Run vs syndication and what not, but it is all agreed upon prior to the show airing. This is fundamentally different then the case presented in the OP.
The similarity is not the commercials being run on cable, but it is just like those terribly annoying little ads for other shows they have started running down in the corner of your screen. Barts head pops up and FOX advertises an all new Simpsons during '24'. The worst is when the add pops up over something critical like sub titles. I am surprised there hasn't been an uproar over that, but it seems to be during network shows advertising network shows so they are just crapping in their own yard.
It is a scary trend that they would alter the traffic, but I honestly don't see anything in the near future that could be used to stop them. After all, it's a "series of tubes" anyone can dump things into.
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