Etheric
join:2007-04-16
2 edits | reply to GearHead360
Re: No response from Bell to CRTC? Anyone?
Thanks andyb! |
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sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
H0H 0H0 | Full of the red herring of managing TCP/IP traffic! |
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HiVolt
Premium
join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
clubs: | reply to Etheric
What a bunch of hogwash.
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Trisomy21
join:2006-04-27
Kingston, ON
1 edit | Basically.
Bell: "If you don't like it, build your own network"
Oh and apparently this isn't affecting VPN or VoIP or any other experience.
Finally
For all of the reasons discussed above, Bell Canada submits that CAIP's request for an interim order should be dismissed in its entirety.
So the Ball is in the CRTC's court now? How long do they have? I'm guessing it'll take them a year. |
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sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
H0H 0H0 | And just who are the wholesalers that approve of this action by Bell???? |
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HiVolt
Premium
join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
clubs:
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
| said by sbrook  :And just who are the wholesalers that approve of this action by Bell???? I'm sure there are some that are loving this, because it will keep their bandwidth costs down.
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Trisomy21
join:2006-04-27
Kingston, ON
| Bell Canada is required to manage its network in such a way that no customer, service or application consumes excessive bandwidth that may impede the use and enjoyment by other customers.
We're the Self-Appointed Internet Police. Downloading is bad and other protocols and individual users are clearly at risk as well. |
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daboom
join:2001-12-16
Oshawa, ON | reply to HiVolt
This is bull%^&% I hope CRTC weighs in favor of the CAIP. |
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HiVolt
Premium
join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
clubs:
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
| said by daboom :This is bull%^&% I hope CRTC weighs in favor of the CAIP. It is BS. Bell has not presented any proof themselves of widespread congestion issues. My area is throttled, and I have been on this remote for 5 years, and never, ever experienced any congestion issues while with Sympatico or TekSavvy.
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GearHead360
join:2002-12-14
 ·Rogers Hi-Speed
·TekSavvy Solutions..
1 edit | said by HiVolt :said by daboom :This is bull%^&% I hope CRTC weighs in favor of the CAIP. It is BS. Bell has not presented any proof themselves of widespread congestion issues. My area is throttled, and I have been on this remote for 5 years, and never, ever experienced any congestion issues while with Sympatico or TekSavvy. From what I saw (I might be wrong). Bell didn't refer to a SINGLE ACT!!!
Just a a bunch of blah blah blah... we aren't doing anything bad... blah bla blah... we are shaping traffic for wholesalers (since they are a part of our network) WHICH IS A LIE!... blah blah blah |
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CanerisErik
Caneris
Premium,VIP
join:2007-10-03
Toronto, ON
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said by sbrook :Full of the red herring of managing TCP/IP traffic! Exactly. The distinction must be made that everything said in paragraph 4.2 and similar is completely irrelevant. They are not being paid to carry TCP/IP traffic. They are being paid to carry whatever wholesalers choose to encapsulate. |
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Arbalister
join:2007-11-24
St Catharines, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
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said by HiVolt :said by daboom :This is bull%^&% I hope CRTC weighs in favor of the CAIP. It is BS. Bell has not presented any proof themselves of widespread congestion issues. My area is throttled, and I have been on this remote for 5 years, and never, ever experienced any congestion issues while with Sympatico or TekSavvy. Actually, they've proven that throttling hasn't fixed a thing. They stress, over and over, in that document, that "Other types of traffic quickly filled the space formerly used by p2p." Web traffic started to fill the 16.5% of bandwidth they got back. Streaming traffic filled it. Etc. All they've done is replaced one type of congestion with another. When will they decide that streaming video is the cuplrit and start throttling that, too? Oh, look, internet radio replaced streaming video...lets filter that too...
They state that this is a good thing. I state that when you pump sewage from 10 tanks at a time down a pipe, and shut the valve for one tank without reducing the overall flow, you've changed nothing. The congestion still exists. |
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zachary1
you talkin' to me?
join:2004-03-07
right here | Sewage and Bell should always be placed in the same sentence. Along with their corporate spokesagandists. |
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Angelo_
The Network Guy
Premium
join:2002-06-18 | linux iso's get angried when not downloaded! |
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Arbalister
join:2007-11-24
St Catharines, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
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said by zachary1 :Sewage and Bell should always be placed in the same sentence. Along with their corporate spokesagandists. *I* thought it was an appropriate analogy. :-P |
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