republican-creole
Search:  

 
 
   All ForumsHot TopicsGallery






how-to block ads


 
Forums » O Canada! » Canadian » TekSavvy » Bandwith demand has slowed. The bottleneck is last mile
Search Topic:
Uniqs:
902
Share Topic:
RSS topic:
toggle:
flat / full
normal / watch
Posting:
Post a:
Post a:
Teksavvy's smtp server question »
« " Study Confirms ISPs Meddle With Web Traffic"  
AuthorAll Replies


drjp81

join:2006-01-09
canada
Bandwith demand has slowed. The bottleneck is last mile

Study.
More: »www.newscientist.com/blog/techno···eak.html
--
Cheers!


SweetDelight
lagomorph
Premium
join:2004-09-04
Earth
I've heard Broadband over power lines is still (one of) the best viable last mile transfers of broadband.

Easier then re-cabling all Fiber.
--
Cute Overload.com All things Cute.


Kareeser
hm?
Premium
join:2006-07-18
Hamilton, ON
·Bell Sympatico
·TekSavvy Solutions..

reply to drjp81
quote:
I should think those problems are solvable though - particularly since governments have started to treat broadband speeds as measures of nations' competitiveness.
Really? Then we must be in the second-to-last tier with our internet... :P


Abattoir

join:2008-03-27
Ottawa, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Cogeco Cable
·Bell Sympatico

reply to SweetDelight
Ontario Hydro/OPG/HydroOne/whoever has been claiming that it's 'coming' for years. I used to see it on my power bill every month. Not sure if they finally gave up on that line...

There are significant problems with going broadband over power lines. Transformers don't allow the higher frequencies to pass through at all, so special equipment would need to be installed at each transformer to 'bypass' the transformer, and accumulate all the data traffic. Also, power lines aren't particularly good waveguides at those frequencies anyway, and power lines are notoriously noisy.


JimmyArms

join:2008-01-09
Sault Ste Marie, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..

We had it here for a couple of years starting in 2004.
I can't find any info of whether it's still a going concern or not.
I can't find anything on the local utilities company web site other than this: "PUC Telecom developed a business plan to use electrical conductors to transmit broadband signals to customers whose telecommunications needs could not support the cost of an optical fibre service connection. Amperion Inc. of Andover, Massachusetts will supply equipment that will inject and extract signals into and out of the distribution wires and then by wireless transmitter send the signal to the end user. A technology trial will be completed in early 2004 followed by an extensive market trial later in the year.

A couple of problems I did hear of them having was that is was slower than they(the customers) thought it would be and radio interference.


Taylortbb
Premium
join:2007-02-18
Waterloo, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..

reply to drjp81
The more I read about this the more I think the government needs a national fibre broadband plan like other countries have done. Setup an (arms length, like CBC) crown corporation that would own the last mile fibre infrastructure and regional backhaul network like Bell does now. That way we still have competition in the market place, you can buy service from whatever ISP, but the carrier doesn't have retail offerings because it's such an obvious conflict of interest. Oh and with that, redefine broadband as 50Mb/s symmetrical. Fibre has virtually unlimited bandwidth, 50Mb/s is nothing.

Jman99

join:2007-04-24
Etobicoke, ON

said by Taylortbb See Profile :

The more I read about this the more I think the government needs a national fibre broadband plan like other countries have done. Setup an (arms length, like CBC) crown corporation that would own the last mile fibre infrastructure and regional backhaul network like Bell does now. That way we still have competition in the market place, you can buy service from whatever ISP, but the carrier doesn't have retail offerings because it's such an obvious conflict of interest. Oh and with that, redefine broadband as 50Mb/s symmetrical. Fibre has virtually unlimited bandwidth, 50Mb/s is nothing.
50mbit symmetrical. Bell/Rogers would wake up in a cold sweat if we ever had that kind of broadcasting power. Any one of us could have their own tv show.


Taylortbb
Premium
join:2007-02-18
Waterloo, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..

said by Jman99 See Profile :

said by Taylortbb See Profile :

The more I read about this the more I think the government needs a national fibre broadband plan like other countries have done. Setup an (arms length, like CBC) crown corporation that would own the last mile fibre infrastructure and regional backhaul network like Bell does now. That way we still have competition in the market place, you can buy service from whatever ISP, but the carrier doesn't have retail offerings because it's such an obvious conflict of interest. Oh and with that, redefine broadband as 50Mb/s symmetrical. Fibre has virtually unlimited bandwidth, 50Mb/s is nothing.
50mbit symmetrical. Bell/Rogers would wake up in a cold sweat if we ever had that kind of broadcasting power. Any one of us could have their own tv show.
Exactly. I really believe that with that kind of broadband widely available the internet would have a far greater impact on our lives over the next 10 years than in the past 10.


Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
reply to Jman99
Similar effects would be felt with IPv6 due to pervasive multicasting support.

What do you want to bet that major ISPs will specifically block multicasts, even though it's now a core mandatory feature (unlike IPv4 multicasting)?

cacruden

join:2008-03-18
Toronto, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..

Just imagine if the internet was all fibre to house, you could allow any local community channels to be broadcast across it - which eliminates the necessity to mandate the number of community channels on cable


ShadPTR

join:2008-01-23
Markham, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..

said by cacruden See Profile :

Just imagine if the internet was all fibre to house, you could allow any local community channels to be broadcast across it - which eliminates the necessity to mandate the number of community channels on cable
Too bad, thats about as likely to happen as me winning the super 7
Forums » O Canada! » Canadian » TekSavvyTeksavvy's smtp server question »
« " Study Confirms ISPs Meddle With Web Traffic"  


Monday, 14-Dec 18:09:48 Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Hosting by www.nac.net - DSL,Hosting & Co-lo | feedback | contact
over 10 years online! © 1999-2009 dslreports.com.
page compression OFF
Most commented news this week
· [99] Google To Sell Phone Directly To Consumers
· [81] Verizon Kindly Forgives Kid's $21,917 3G Bandwidth Bill
· [64] TiVO Tries To Figure Out Where It Fits
· [51] Faster Verizon DSL Service Will Burn Your House Down
· [42] NY Times: AT&T 3G Network Is Secretly Awesome
· [22] Rural Broadband User? You're Screwed
· [20] Sweden First To Get LTE Service
· [6] Can Satire Take Down AT&T's 3G Network?
· [1] Monday Morning Links
Most people now reading
· Official Mediacom Email Discussion Thread [Mediacom]
· Ashen Verdict Rep farming guide (ICC 10) [World of Warcraft]
· personal check etiquette [General Questions]
· how to get money back when ripped off [General Questions]
· Windows 7 boot manager editing questions [Microsoft Help]
· What VOIP changes did you make in 2009? [VOIP Tech Chat]
· DKs and their obsession with Agility [World of Warcraft]
· Thinking of dropping my telco, but have a special need [VOIP Tech Chat]
· IMG 1.7 (IMG Updates and Discussion) [Verizon FIOS TV]
· Help with my UI [World of Warcraft]