flyguy42
join:2003-11-29
Gilbert, AZ
| New high speed tier and price increases.
So I just got word (actually a few says ago, but I couldn't access the site here) that Quest will be offering a 20M/1M top end tier, and supposedly have plans to increase that increase that speed in the near future. I don't remember the pricing exacly, but I believe it was $99 with a bundled service, and $115 without. Personally, I'm a little surprised that there is not a faster upload... anyways I hear not all the modems work with this speed tier either... specifically the modem/router combos.
On another note, my source also says the prices will be increasing about $3 over the weekend to new subscribers across the board. |
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jackknife
join:2001-02-24
Phoenix, AZ
clubs:
| Vanilla ADSL-ADSL2+ has a limit of 1M up. Qwest can't offer faster without changing hardware to support some of the standard variants that have faster upload speed.
Now, when they up the speed of their VDSL offerings, it would be a shame if the upload didn't at least increase a little. |
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dispatcher21
join:2004-01-22
Walla Walla, WA
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April 19th, @09:25AM
| reply to flyguy42
$100?! Charter here has 16meg for $69. I hope they realize that price is high and lower it. Also, the price increase is only for new customers? That seems odd. |
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no_one
@QWEST.NET | reply to flyguy42
The 14 meg may be the sweet spot for pricing. VDSL is still out of luck. But you can get hdtv. |
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wigwam
join:2001-12-12
| reply to flyguy42
said by flyguy42  :So I just got word (actually a few says ago, but I couldn't access the site here) that Quest will be offering a 20M/1M top end tier, and supposedly have plans to increase that increase that speed in the near future. I don't remember the pricing exacly, but I believe it was $99 with a bundled service, and $115 without. Personally, I'm a little surprised that there is not a faster upload... anyways I hear not all the modems work with this speed tier either... specifically the modem/router combos. On another note, my source also says the prices will be increasing about $3 over the weekend to new subscribers across the board. Who is Quest? Are they offering Broadband as well?
I do know who Qwest is and what is in the pipe...
FYI.
Qwest Connect Quantum (20M) Up to 20128 Up to 896 $98.00
Qwest Connect Titanium (12M) Up to 12128 Up to 896 $48.00
Prices remain unchanged to all other speed tiers. |
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woodward
XMission Broadband
VIP
join:2000-12-28
Salt Lake City, UT
| said by wigwam :FYI. Qwest Connect Quantum (20M) Up to 20128 Up to 896 $98.00 Qwest Connect Titanium (12M) Up to 12128 Up to 896 $48.00 Prices remain unchanged to all other speed tiers. Wigwam, we were briefed by Qwest at the quarterly ISP partner conference this past Friday, and not only were we told that existing DSL prices are increasing $3, but the numbers we were given for FTTN were slightly larger than what you have here.
Molly should have the presentation up on Qhost soon if you want to see what we were shown. |
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wigwam
join:2001-12-12
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April 20th, @02:40PM
| The numbers I quoted were for special pricing on residential lines.
There is a wide variety of pricing available to residential and business customers. Depending of course on a variety of factors. If a customer has a bundle, wireless, directv, a term commitment or a promotion.
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mdrift
join:2003-08-15
Spokane, WA
| reply to flyguy42
said by flyguy42 :So I just got word (actually a few says ago, but I couldn't access the site here) that Quest will be offering a 20M/1M top end tier, and supposedly have plans to increase that increase that speed in the near future. I don't remember the pricing exacly, but I believe it was $99 with a bundled service, and $115 without. Personally, I'm a little surprised that there is not a faster upload... anyways I hear not all the modems work with this speed tier either... specifically the modem/router combos. On another note, my source also says the prices will be increasing about $3 over the weekend to new subscribers across the board. If I were in a Verizon FiOS area I'd drop Qwest in an instant and get 15Mbs down/15Mbps Up for $64.99 per month. |
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bhalvor
@iphouse.net
| reply to woodward
said by woodward :Wigwam, we were briefed by Qwest at the quarterly ISP partner conference this past Friday, and not only were we told that existing DSL prices are increasing $3, but the numbers we were given for FTTN were slightly larger than what you have here. Was there any word about allowing third party ISPs on the FTTN network? My dslam was upgraded last fall and the Qwest reps I talked to after that told me that my line qualifies for 7 Meg but since I'm using a third party ISP I can only get 1.5 Meg. I asked my ISP (IPHouse) to look into it but they got the same answers. |
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yankee fan
@mchsi.com | reply to flyguy42
Why use third party this is a waste of money when Qwest has MSN, and btw there is no increase in residential pricing |
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caffeinator
Coming soon to a cup near you..
Premium
join:2005-01-16
Spokane, WA
 ·WebBand
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April 21st, @08:11AM
| reply to bhalvor
said by bhalvor :
Was there any word about allowing third party ISPs on the FTTN network? My dslam was upgraded last fall and the Qwest reps I talked to after that told me that my line qualifies for 7 Meg but since I'm using a third party ISP I can only get 1.5 Meg. I asked my ISP (IPHouse) to look into it but they got the same answers.
I'm guessing you'd have to be on a CO situation to get 7M. I don't think the average DSLAM will cut it.
I do have a local 3rd-party ISP because of a number of reasons and my 7/896 is just fine. I even get the 'price for life' deal from them. However, I'm about 1300' from the CO.
*edit*
I just checked your ISP, and what they offer is nearly identical to what I get, including prices.
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woodward
XMission Broadband
VIP
join:2000-12-28
Salt Lake City, UT
| reply to bhalvor
said by bhalvor :
Was there any word about allowing third party ISPs on the FTTN network? There was. Qwest is not allowing third party ISPs to host this service as they do on DSL, and have no plans on ever doing so. FTTN will be a Qwest end-to-end product.
They do have loose plans on allowing third party ISPs to resell FTTN and Qwest.net late this year, or early next. I don't have a clue why we would want to do that. |
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bhalvor
@iphouse.net
| reply to yankee fan
said by yankee fan :
Why use third party this is a waste of money when Qwest has MSN, and btw there is no increase in residential pricing
It depends on what your preferences are. With the IPHouse account you also get what amounts to an unlimited Octanews account at no extra charge. The owner of Octanews is also one of the owners of IPHouse.
Also, IPHouse doesn't have a problem with people running servers on their DSL lines. |
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djweis
join:2006-04-02
West Des Moines, IA
| reply to mdrift
said by mdrift :If I were in a Verizon FiOS area I'd drop Qwest in an instant and get 15Mbs down/15Mbps Up for $64.99 per month. There's no overlap between Verizon and Qwest - they are both incumbents serving different geographical areas. |
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djweis
join:2006-04-02
West Des Moines, IA | reply to woodward
This is a good reason to start putting in your own DSLAM's and VoIP gear  |
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mathyou
join:2002-01-03
Minneapolis, MN | reply to flyguy42
RE: ipHouse
I tend to prefer their routing to Qwest's. |
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caffeinator
Coming soon to a cup near you..
Premium
join:2005-01-16
Spokane, WA | Ditto, my isp is just the consumer wing of a carrier-class regional DC ..they beat qwest routes and multihoming everytime. Plus free talk to real humans who have known me since 56k. That's worth $10/mo. IMO. |
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dmconwa1
@spcsdns.net
| reply to bhalvor
The 1.5M package was increased by $3.00 the other packages did not increase.
As for 3rd party ISP's. Your DSLAM was upgraded to FTTN. If you didn't change your package then you are still connected to the ATM broadband network which allows 3rd party ISP's. When, and if you switch to FTTN there are no 3rd party options available currently. I'm assuming they don't have to play by the same rules as they do with ADSL since it's a totally different network. |
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woodward
XMission Broadband
VIP
join:2000-12-28
Salt Lake City, UT
| said by dmconwa1 :
I'm assuming they don't have to play by the same rules as they do with ADSL since it's a totally different network. I may misunderstand you, but to be clear, the FCC deregulated DSL a few years ago. Telcos are not required to share their DSL networks.
/rant on
This is despite the fact that these networks were largely built by public funding made available by the Telecommunications Act of 1996. It was nearly 10 years after the fact that the current administration decided that forcing the Bells to share data infrastructure was unfairly competitive(*boggle*)and pardoned this service from regulation. CLECs are still allowed to share the phone networks, but data networks are now exclusively owned and operated by the Bells and are shared only at their leisure.
If memory serves, the circular argument behind this theory was that creating competition would stall innovation and growth, since the telco industry would be less likely to invest in infrastructure they have to share.
/rant off |
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viperlmw
join:2005-01-25
·Qwest.net
| said by woodward : CLECs are still allowed to share the phone networks, but data networks are now exclusively owned and operated by the Bells and are shared only at their leisure. If memory serves, the circular argument behind this theory was that creating competition would stall innovation and growth, since the telco industry would be less likely to invest in infrastructure they have to share. Then I have a question for you. According to your information, it will become more and more difficult to reach wholesale agreements with the incumbent telco in what seems to be your primary market (Qwest and Utah). If so, then what are Xmission's plans for growth? Utopia and iProvo? You've been working that for a while. Comcast gonna suddenly open up and let you wholesale? Don't think so. Start selling in rural telco areas? I assume you have already found out how tough that is. Keep crying that you can't get access? The lawyers will love you for that. What have I missed?
I know, BUILD OUT YOUR OWN NETWORK!
I know it's expensive, but that's the only way to GUARANTEE access to your customers.
I have another question. If you do build out a fttp network, are you going to use ONTs with battery backup? If so, who maintains/replaces the batteries? Who replaces them now on fttp builds (Verizon, iProvo, Utopia, Qwest in Daybreak, etc.)? |
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