New high speed tier and price increases. in Qwest http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20353356 en Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:53:33 EDT Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:53:33 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20403457 CopperMonkey : Idaho residents might be disappointed to know what I found out from the Idaho Falls mall booth staff; they surprisingly had been given info, and said that only Boise is rolling out the new speed tiers right now; everywhere else will see a slow rollout over the next couple of years, the larger eastern ID cities themselves won't see the new speeds for at least a year and a half (yes, they're going into larger cities first, though it's expected).

There isn't a specific time frame right now for what cities will get the new speeds in ID, and the booth staff didn't know if the techs would work on remote terminal upgrades before the new speeds hit. I do hope so though, since right now I'm only on 1.5m/896k. There's a DS-3 line looped literally right in front of the terminal in the back of a cross box, I saw them unrolling it from a truck all along the highway to the terminal all last summer, but never bothered connecting it even though it's only 3-4 feet from it looped in the cross box. If it could be connected it'd likely allow me to get 5-7Mbps down; I don't need extra upload but would welcome it if it were possible.

Good luck to everyone else with the new speeds if they can order it and get it running.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20403457 Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:31:31 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20401315 anon : How are ping times with this new service. do they go down?
does qwest still run interleave on there network.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20401315 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:42:20 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20399707 wigwam : I did not see this URL in the thread. Maybe it was missed when it was added to the Qwest.com home page last week.

»www.qwest.com/residential/intern···ics.html

This network no longer runs on the ATM network but, does run over a separate network.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20399707 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:05:34 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20397995 NormanS : I am in the heart of Silicon Valley, and my choices are:

• Comcast (expensive) cable.

• 3mbps ADSL.

Go figure.
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It is really frustrating to live in a densely populated urban area and only be able to get 3mbit. So I either go with that or am stuck with Comcast. In freaking small town South Dakota I could get 7mbit DSL or really, really good 10mbit cable.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20396678 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:09:53 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20395590 dispatcher21 : I emailed the head dsl guy in Spokane and asked him if any places on the eastside of Washington were being upgraded and he said no, not at this time. Next time our local tech comes to check out our phone system at work, I will hit him up for some info on it. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20395590 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:31:52 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20394550 djweis : Ames isn't on the current list of cities but probably will at some point.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20394550 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 10:48:03 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20393742 anon :
said by caffeinator See Profile :

Honestly, with the number of sites I see that can actually use the 7/896 I have now...what's the point really? Heck, I d/l'd a 800Mb+ file at 141KB/s today and thought that was good. ;)
I rarely get the full download rate (700kb/s+) unless I have multiple threaded connections open via the use of some sort of download accelerator (such as download express, mass downloader, or hidownload). Using any of those I almost always get over 700kb/s download rates. It would be interesting to see what 20mb service would give, but it is not listed for my area.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20393742 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:44:56 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20391995 caffeinator : Ya, same oddness here. By zip of 99205, I see up to 20M offered..by using phone number only the 7M I have now.

No biggie..I'd talked to my ISP and they haven't heard of over 7M coming yet in the partner meetings. Course, the ISP is in a different ZIP than I am..lol

Funny stuff.

Honestly, with the number of sites I see that can actually use the 7/896 I have now...what's the point really? Heck, I d/l'd a 800Mb+ file at 141KB/s today and thought that was good. ;)

True, it was on the other side of the planet..might have made a difference...lol

-CaFF]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20391995 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:29:13 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20391307 mdrift : Spokane via 99223 zipcode lists the 12Mbps and 20Mbps but specifically on my CO it's not there.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20391307 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:16:45 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20390218 anon : What markets is qwest rolling out their new quantum service. Is Ames, IA one of these?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20390218 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:11:40 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20385650 danawhitaker : "Also, IPHouse doesn't have a problem with people running servers on their DSL lines."

Did Qwest.net change their policies regarding people running servers on personal connections? I used to run an FTP server and such, and I know plenty of people on this forum who've run mail servers. Most of the third party ISPs I looked at around here either prohibited servers or had decently strict bandwidth caps back in the day in comparison to Qwest.
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said by bhalvor :

said by yankee fan :

Why use third party this is a waste of money when Qwest has MSN, and btw there is no increase in residential pricing
It depends on what your preferences are. With the IPHouse account you also get what amounts to an unlimited Octanews account at no extra charge. The owner of Octanews is also one of the owners of IPHouse.

Also, IPHouse doesn't have a problem with people running servers on their DSL lines.
Doug from IPHouse says that Qwest is shutting them out from offering these new speeds. that sucks!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20385523 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:24:43 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20382070 skriefal : After further thought, I'm no longer as interested in the new 12mbps or 20mbps tiers. What would be the point of spending more per month for a service that still throttles downloads to 1.5mbps?

Edit: I may have been incorrect regarding the throttling. I have seen slower than usual speeds recently -- including periods where any downloads seem to be unable to exceed 1.5mbps -- but it seems to come and go. Might be an intermittent line problem or capacity issue. If it is throttling then it would appear to kick in only during periods of heavy usage. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20382070 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:00:22 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20381521 jinjimbob :
said by dispatcher21 See Profile :

Are there any zip codes that the new speeds dont show up on? I put in a zip code for Touchet,WA 99360, the whole town is fed by a RT(s) and it still shows up with the new speeds available and I cant believe that they would have it, the population is like 396. I think that any zip code entered will show the new speeds, kinda irritating.
You have to use the phone/address to see the real speeds available.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20381521 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:07:59 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20380874 dispatcher21 : Are there any zip codes that the new speeds dont show up on? I put in a zip code for Touchet,WA 99360, the whole town is fed by a RT(s) and it still shows up with the new speeds available and I cant believe that they would have it, the population is like 396. I think that any zip code entered will show the new speeds, kinda irritating. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20380874 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:25:34 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20380770 woodward :
said by brmasha See Profile :

Woodward, do you know what parts of Utah your subscribers that canceled were in?
SLC area, but I couldn't tell you exactly where.

We're seeing a lot of what bleagh is reporting, where the area qualifies but the service is not quite yet live. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20380770 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:04:09 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20380749 bleagh : Well I am only 2 blocks away from the Qwest offices in downtown SLC. If I check my zip (84111) online it shows speeds up to 20meg. But if I put in my phone number, it only gives up to 7meg.

I called Qwest on the phone today, and they also stated that the fastest speed for my line is 7meg. They also said that the faster speeds are only available for 2% of their customers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20380749 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:00:30 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20377669 skriefal : The 5/7mb tier is still the fastest available option here in Sandy, according to Qwest's web site. :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20377669 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:35:20 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20377382 brmasha : Woodward, do you know what parts of Utah your subscribers that canceled were in?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20377382 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:17:05 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20377067 Karl Bode : Gotcha. Thanks for the info.

For what it's worth, I'm hearing the official announcement should be Thursday, so hopefully we'll hear some solid launch markets...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20377067 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:13:52 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20376843 woodward :
said by Karl Bode See Profile :

Has anyone successfully ordered?
Yes, I know of at least two subscribers that have canceled their DSL service with XMission because they upgraded to FTTN this week and we were unable to host the new line.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20376843 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:34:20 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20375885 slimmy : I was about to order, but here in Idaho Falls, ID I can only get the 3mb dsl. That is for 46.99 and my 3mb cable is only 43.00.

If they could at least get the 7mb to my house. I would be all over it. Oh well.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20375885 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:12:10 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20375548 spectra : I thought about ordering, but I'm going to hold off for now. Primarily because I want to see if this new service is fastpath or interleaved. You can never get a straight answer from Qwest over the phone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20375548 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:04:57 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20375322 AthlGrond :
said by evilpeppard See Profile :

I show it now available (4/23/2008) to me in Denver, CO (Centennial). Only up to the 12MB flavor though.

I'd like to upgrade, but not going to. I'm using the 7MB tier with no problems right now. If I went to 12MB, it would just be for bragging rights at this point.
Apparently some lines in my zip code go up to 20Mbps, however my home phone number is still limited to 1.5Mbps. Oddly enough, I'm now even less interested in getting DSL at home as a result. (Perhaps it's the getting %7.5 of the speed for %46 of the price of their fastest service. ;))
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I'd like to upgrade, but not going to. I'm using the 7MB tier with no problems right now. If I went to 12MB, it would just be for bragging rights at this point.
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said by woodward See Profile :

We've always essentially used the glut in inbound data to fuel our access service. It is a very, very rare occasion that we have to increase bandwidth for access subscribers.
I didn't even think of that. It seems like the two really complement each other and can help the bottom line.

We also have a bad habit of re-investing those savings into our customer's service (*GASP* what are we thinking?!?!?!). ;)
That's way cool. I really like to hear companies do that as many don't.

Have you had any word on video with these new speed tiers or with the ADSL2 deployment? I ran across something interesting today going through some Sandy City Council minutes. They're about 6 months old, but I haven't heard/seen anything about this until now -- at least here in Utah. Here are two links to the minutes:

»sandy.utah.gov/fileadmin/downloa···_min.pdf -- Public hearing 3

and

»sandy.utah.gov/fileadmin/downloa···_min.pdf -- Council item 4

It appears as though Qwest wants to obtain a video franchise agreement in Sandy City to offer video/cable services over (what I'm guessing) their ADSL2 network. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20371956 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:48:12 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20369337 woodward : Your thinking is dead on for the most part, and we have pages and pages of data breaking down this relationship. There is indeed symbiosis. But our bandwidth consumption has always been driven by the coloc, and not access subscribers, and that's for one critical reason -- coloc = upload. Access = download. We've always essentially used the glut in inbound data to fuel our access service. It is a very, very rare occasion that we have to increase bandwidth for access subscribers.

You're absolutely right about the per-Mb cost, though. But, believe it or not, it isn't until just within the last couple of months that we have crossed into significant discounts. We also have a bad habit of re-investing those savings into our customer's service (*GASP* what are we thinking?!?!?!). ;) At the end of the day, we're still only making pennies on every access subscriber.
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I think Qwest building a separate ADSL2 network shows the beginning of the end of 3rd party ISP's.

There were about 160 third party ISPs on the Qwest conference call that announced this who were realizing the same thing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20369337 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:39:33 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20368810 macroff :
said by woodward See Profile :

Far as XMission is concerned? Truth is, we're far past the days when connectivity was bread and butter. In fact, hosting broadband is our least profitable service. Believe me, all the DSLR bluster about ISP services ripping off consumers over monthly quotas is far, far off the mark. Most heavy data consumers are costing us a small fortune.
I think if you look at the cost on an individual basis, this is the case. If you look at the whole picture, then, in my opinion, you need those heavy data consumers and residential connections. Lemme explain...

I'm just guessing with all this... by looking at your graph stats, your Qwest DSL customers use about 50% of your bandwidth. Add Utopia to that and your bandwidth usage by providing connectivity is probably pushing 70-80%. That's a lot of bandwidth usage that gives you leverage to negotiate lower prices with your backbone providers for a lower Mb/s cost. That lower Mb/s cost makes your collocation/hosting/other business more profitable. If you stopped providing connectivity right now, your backbone costs (per Mb) would probably go up quite a bit. The Qwest DSL and Utopia customers also help offset the cost of running your datacenter. Take DSL and Utopia out, you would find, in my opinion, that your data center wouldn't be as profitable. I would also give a little credit to residential and heavy bandwidth users in helping you (possibly forcing you) to build out a larger capacity network that makes Xmission competitive in the collocation market in Utah. Honestly, I wouldn't even look at Xmission for collocation if they didn't have GigE connections and larger routers. There are a number of large collocation companies in Utah that have big data centers, large pipes and facilities designed extremely well for 100% uptime. I just don't think Xmission would have built as good of a network without the connectivity customers. In many ways, you're following in the footsteps of ViaWest.

Right now we're getting our feet wet with VoIP, and hope to grow quickly into full PBX and unified communications hosting.
I hope you can find success in these areas. So many companies are into this and a number have closed up shop (or are really struggling). If you can find ways to be different, then I think you can succeed in this area. You HAVE to be different.

We also started a CLEC subsidiary that we can use for interconnect/colocation and just lease last mile. Dunno if its worth the investment, though.
I don't know that becoming a CLEC is really worth it either. CLECs seem to be struggling too with either closing up shop, merging, or getting bought out. I think it's hard to make money in this area, but it may be the only option to reach some customers. There is, however, some really neat copper-based equipment out there that shows that copper still has a lot of potential.

I think it is an interesting time for Xmission. I'm really interested to see what Xmission does over the next 2-4 years. Things are changing. It seems that a critical junction point is forming. I just hope that Xmission isn't too late to enter some of the different markets out there. Xmission has to change and is probably large enough to do it. I think Qwest building a separate ADSL2 network shows the beginning of the end of 3rd party ISP's.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20368810 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:58:42 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20368609 mathyou : In my reading, woodward wasn't saying that fiber build-outs have been publicly subsidized for a hundred years. He said that the copper infrastructure has been, which is why the FCC's decision to allow ILECs to deny access or grant it on discriminatory terms was bad.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20368609 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:27:23 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20368142 viperlmw : Thanks for the interesting reply. I agree most residential consumers don't understand the cost of the bandwidth they use. And the heavy users want 100meg x 100meg for $20 a month, with no caps. But the part about a hundred years of subsidized infrastructure, I was asking about FTTP, and very little of that has been subsidized. Basically, it's all new stuff, so I believe much of that argument is a straw man. But focusing on the business side of the house, and not primarily on residential is probably a smart move. And I have always been impressed by companies that self-finance. Sure, growth is slower, but the profits are all yours. Good luck with the CLEC stuff!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20368142 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:58:38 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20366671 woodward : Far as XMission is concerned? Truth is, we're far past the days when connectivity was bread and butter. In fact, hosting broadband is our least profitable service. Believe me, all the DSLR bluster about ISP services ripping off consumers over monthly quotas is far, far off the mark. Most heavy data consumers are costing us a small fortune.

These days we do most of our business in colocation (our data center is virtually maxed out), hosting, business solutions, and dedicated access. And we're increasing our pcat all the time, with varying levels of success. Right now we're getting our feet wet with VoIP, and hope to grow quickly into full PBX and unified communications hosting.

But we haven't given up on access, and yes, we have considered our own fiber footprint. But saying its expensive is an understatement. You're talking anywhere between $5,000-10,000 per location install depending on area. It can be far more expensive for us to roll such a network than it is for incumbents who have a hundred years worth of subsidized infrastructure to build on - particularly when you face legal obstruction at every pole juncture. And, I admit, we're just not that skilled at leeching VC. We've always been privately owned and have always self-financed growth, which just isn't compatible with these needs.

We also started a CLEC subsidiary that we can use for interconnect/colocation and just lease last mile. Dunno if its worth the investment, though.

Waaayyy off topic now :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20366671 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:39:28 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20366606 viperlmw :
said by woodward See Profile :

CLECs are still allowed to share the phone networks, but data networks are now exclusively owned and operated by the Bells and are shared only at their leisure.

If memory serves, the circular argument behind this theory was that creating competition would stall innovation and growth, since the telco industry would be less likely to invest in infrastructure they have to share.
Then I have a question for you. According to your information, it will become more and more difficult to reach wholesale agreements with the incumbent telco in what seems to be your primary market (Qwest and Utah). If so, then what are Xmission's plans for growth? Utopia and iProvo? You've been working that for a while. Comcast gonna suddenly open up and let you wholesale? Don't think so. Start selling in rural telco areas? I assume you have already found out how tough that is. Keep crying that you can't get access? The lawyers will love you for that. What have I missed?

I know, BUILD OUT YOUR OWN NETWORK!

I know it's expensive, but that's the only way to GUARANTEE access to your customers.

I have another question. If you do build out a fttp network, are you going to use ONTs with battery backup? If so, who maintains/replaces the batteries? Who replaces them now on fttp builds (Verizon, iProvo, Utopia, Qwest in Daybreak, etc.)?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20366606 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:03:38 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20366446 woodward :
said by dmconwa1 :

I'm assuming they don't have to play by the same rules as they do with ADSL since it's a totally different network.
I may misunderstand you, but to be clear, the FCC deregulated DSL a few years ago. Telcos are not required to share their DSL networks.

/rant on
This is despite the fact that these networks were largely built by public funding made available by the Telecommunications Act of 1996. It was nearly 10 years after the fact that the current administration decided that forcing the Bells to share data infrastructure was unfairly competitive(*boggle*)and pardoned this service from regulation. CLECs are still allowed to share the phone networks, but data networks are now exclusively owned and operated by the Bells and are shared only at their leisure.

If memory serves, the circular argument behind this theory was that creating competition would stall innovation and growth, since the telco industry would be less likely to invest in infrastructure they have to share.
/rant off]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20366446 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:51:20 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20365919 anon : The 1.5M package was increased by $3.00 the other packages did not increase.

As for 3rd party ISP's. Your DSLAM was upgraded to FTTN. If you didn't change your package then you are still connected to the ATM broadband network which allows 3rd party ISP's. When, and if you switch to FTTN there are no 3rd party options available currently. I'm assuming they don't have to play by the same rules as they do with ADSL since it's a totally different network. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20365919 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:44:03 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20364616 caffeinator : Ditto, my isp is just the consumer wing of a carrier-class regional DC ..they beat qwest routes and multihoming everytime. Plus free talk to real humans who have known me since 56k. That's worth $10/mo. IMO.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20364616 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:39:26 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20363190 mathyou : RE: ipHouse

I tend to prefer their routing to Qwest's.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20363190 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:57:20 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20363178 djweis : This is a good reason to start putting in your own DSLAM's and VoIP gear :-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20363178 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:54:36 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20363174 djweis :
said by mdrift See Profile :

If I were in a Verizon FiOS area I'd drop Qwest in an instant and get 15Mbs down/15Mbps Up for $64.99 per month.
There's no overlap between Verizon and Qwest - they are both incumbents serving different geographical areas.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20363174 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:53:52 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20363003 anon :
said by yankee fan :

Why use third party this is a waste of money when Qwest has MSN, and btw there is no increase in residential pricing
It depends on what your preferences are. With the IPHouse account you also get what amounts to an unlimited Octanews account at no extra charge. The owner of Octanews is also one of the owners of IPHouse.

Also, IPHouse doesn't have a problem with people running servers on their DSL lines.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20363003 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:19:17 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20362892 woodward :
said by bhalvor :

Was there any word about allowing third party ISPs on the FTTN network?
There was. Qwest is not allowing third party ISPs to host this service as they do on DSL, and have no plans on ever doing so. FTTN will be a Qwest end-to-end product.

They do have loose plans on allowing third party ISPs to resell FTTN and Qwest.net late this year, or early next. I don't have a clue why we would want to do that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20362892 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:54:47 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20361727 caffeinator :
said by bhalvor :

Was there any word about allowing third party ISPs on the FTTN network? My dslam was upgraded last fall and the Qwest reps I talked to after that told me that my line qualifies for 7 Meg but since I'm using a third party ISP I can only get 1.5 Meg. I asked my ISP (IPHouse) to look into it but they got the same answers.
I'm guessing you'd have to be on a CO situation to get 7M. I don't think the average DSLAM will cut it.

I do have a local 3rd-party ISP because of a number of reasons and my 7/896 is just fine. I even get the 'price for life' deal from them. However, I'm about 1300' from the CO.

*edit*
I just checked your ISP, and what they offer is nearly identical to what I get, including prices.

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Need an Avatar? Check out Wafen's Avatar Pages]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20361727 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 08:08:51 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20361387 anon : Why use third party this is a waste of money when Qwest has MSN, and btw there is no increase in residential pricing]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20361387 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:13:22 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20361178 anon :
said by woodward See Profile :

Wigwam, we were briefed by Qwest at the quarterly ISP partner conference this past Friday, and not only were we told that existing DSL prices are increasing $3, but the numbers we were given for FTTN were slightly larger than what you have here.

Was there any word about allowing third party ISPs on the FTTN network? My dslam was upgraded last fall and the Qwest reps I talked to after that told me that my line qualifies for 7 Meg but since I'm using a third party ISP I can only get 1.5 Meg. I asked my ISP (IPHouse) to look into it but they got the same answers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20361178 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:13:24 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20360811 mdrift :
said by flyguy42 See Profile :

So I just got word (actually a few says ago, but I couldn't access the site here) that Quest will be offering a 20M/1M top end tier, and supposedly have plans to increase that increase that speed in the near future. I don't remember the pricing exacly, but I believe it was $99 with a bundled service, and $115 without. Personally, I'm a little surprised that there is not a faster upload... anyways I hear not all the modems work with this speed tier either... specifically the modem/router combos.

On another note, my source also says the prices will be increasing about $3 over the weekend to new subscribers across the board.
If I were in a Verizon FiOS area I'd drop Qwest in an instant and get 15Mbs down/15Mbps Up for $64.99 per month.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20360811 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:02:22 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20358808 wigwam : The numbers I quoted were for special pricing on residential lines.

There is a wide variety of pricing available to residential and business customers. Depending of course on a variety of factors. If a customer has a bundle, wireless, directv, a term commitment or a promotion.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20358808 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:23:16 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20357350 woodward :
said by wigwam See Profile :

FYI.
Qwest Connect Quantum (20M) Up to 20128 Up to 896 $98.00
Qwest Connect Titanium (12M) Up to 12128 Up to 896 $48.00

Prices remain unchanged to all other speed tiers.
Wigwam, we were briefed by Qwest at the quarterly ISP partner conference this past Friday, and not only were we told that existing DSL prices are increasing $3, but the numbers we were given for FTTN were slightly larger than what you have here.

Molly should have the presentation up on Qhost soon if you want to see what we were shown.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20357350 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:43:52 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20355569 wigwam :
said by flyguy42 See Profile :

So I just got word (actually a few says ago, but I couldn't access the site here) that Quest will be offering a 20M/1M top end tier, and supposedly have plans to increase that increase that speed in the near future. I don't remember the pricing exacly, but I believe it was $99 with a bundled service, and $115 without. Personally, I'm a little surprised that there is not a faster upload... anyways I hear not all the modems work with this speed tier either... specifically the modem/router combos.

On another note, my source also says the prices will be increasing about $3 over the weekend to new subscribers across the board.
Who is Quest? Are they offering Broadband as well?
I do know who Qwest is and what is in the pipe...

FYI.
Qwest Connect Quantum (20M) Up to 20128 Up to 896 $98.00
Qwest Connect Titanium (12M) Up to 12128 Up to 896 $48.00

Prices remain unchanged to all other speed tiers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20355569 Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:37:05 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20354626 anon : The 14 meg may be the sweet spot for pricing. VDSL is still out of luck. But you can get hdtv. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20354626 Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:29:18 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20353783 dispatcher21 : $100?! Charter here has 16meg for $69. I hope they realize that price is high and lower it. Also, the price increase is only for new customers? That seems odd.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20353783 Sat, 19 Apr 2008 09:21:02 EDT Re: New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20353745 jackknife : Vanilla ADSL-ADSL2+ has a limit of 1M up. Qwest can't offer faster without changing hardware to support some of the standard variants that have faster upload speed.

Now, when they up the speed of their VDSL offerings, it would be a shame if the upload didn't at least increase a little.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20353745 Sat, 19 Apr 2008 08:52:31 EDT New high speed tier and price increases. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20353356 flyguy42 : So I just got word (actually a few says ago, but I couldn't access the site here) that Quest will be offering a 20M/1M top end tier, and supposedly have plans to increase that increase that speed in the near future. I don't remember the pricing exacly, but I believe it was $99 with a bundled service, and $115 without. Personally, I'm a little surprised that there is not a faster upload... anyways I hear not all the modems work with this speed tier either... specifically the modem/router combos.

On another note, my source also says the prices will be increasing about $3 over the weekend to new subscribers across the board.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20353356 Sat, 19 Apr 2008 03:41:12 EDT