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« Is AT&T is milking POTS users?  
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tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY

goes without saying

you want to prop the bottom line... fire workers..
then you hire them back at the entry level salaries.. saves the company a bunch of money upfront.. although it's debatable whether it actually saves the company money in the long run.. in terms of LOST customers/prospects because the new people don't know the job quite yet..

although you really wouldn't know it.. that's how corporate america does business, they constantly roll over on employees just so that they can avoid career long hires whom would be entitled to retirement benefits, healthcare benefits, etc, etc... those obligations are cut short and the employees are forced into state welfare programs short term.. the same things done to illegal aliens.. although by the time the american worker is forced to see if they qualify.. they don't... since they illegal alien's work is off the books, they can lie to qualify.


verolom

join:2002-03-23
Eatontown, NJ
·Comcast

Except that they are not hiring them back, they are hiring contracting houses (who are hiring sub-contracting houses, who are in turn hiring more sub-contracting houses... you get the point) who hire the former employees and take away a large percentage of the contract. In the end, the former employees have a lower quality job, no health care, no retirement plans, no rights, endless hours, no training, no outlook, nor any career planning, mistreatment by other full time employees (red badge vs. blue badge = like a concentration camp), and at the end get kicked out with no notice because they are simply disposable.

disc

join:2005-12-31
Raleigh, NC

said by verolom See Profile :

In the end, the former employees have a lower quality job, no health care, no retirement plans, no rights, endless hours, no training, no outlook, nor any career planning, mistreatment by other full time employees (red badge vs. blue badge = like a concentration camp), and at the end get kicked out with no notice because they are simply disposable.
I haven't been through this personally, but I've seen it happen to my colleagues.


joock

@rr.com
Most of the people leaving in our area are in their mid fifties but have their 30 years in. They are also the most respected and tired competing against the con artists that don't care how they make the crazy numbers.

Ulmo

join:2005-09-22
San Jose, CA
·Comcast
·SONIC.NET

reply to tmc8080
said by tmc8080 See Profile :

although by the time the american worker is forced to see if they qualify.. they don't... since they illegal alien's work is off the books, they can lie to qualify.
Plus, the political systems are racist, pro-illegal type systems.

There's all sorts of other incentives, like if you're an illegal Mexican in USA, the IRS allows you to get ITIN #s for yourself and your mother and father, and even if the IRS knows your mother and father live in Mexico, you can send money to them in Mexico, then because you send money to them, you can claim them as dependents, and get enormous standard tax deductions as a result: IRS (USA tax) incentives to send money to Mexico, out of this country.

There's a million anti-USA anti-white pro-brown programs like that, and since most competitive advantages work on incremental margins, these big whoppers of income redistribution and non-merit-based preferential treatment multiply up super fast.

Then, there's policies such as when the farming industry was pushing to mechanize the full labor system to become machines (including all field picking, sorting, etc.), then the "communist" movement in California including lots of "Mexican" labor had some negotiations with farm business, and the result was that labor would be spared: they kept the farm labor rather than mechanizing. In other words, rather than reducing inefficiency, reducing cost to USA people (whites), increasing quality (less germs, etc.), and increasing the employment of USA citizens (educated people that create complex farm machinery), they instead kept the illegal alien labor. Perhaps they did this to futher the lie that "illegals come here to do work that is necessary that we won't do".

Anyway, these actions paired with the corporate raiding strategy of selling out the USA and its citizens hurts us a lot.

Tax policies suck too: when you have equipment and inventory being taxed, what happens? Equipment, and to a lesser extend, inventories, represent latent capabilities, foundations upon which you can bank on the future, keep your capabilities despite any type of fluctuations in the outside conditions, etc.. With taxation of those assetts, you are penalized for keeping it, for not selling it, and when you sell equipment, where does it end up? China. Now, we don't have it, and they do. That's not 100% motivated by taxation policies, but it damn well is encouraged by it. It causes all sorts of evil.

So, it's not just welfare.


KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
reply to verolom
And we wonder why a few people snap and come back with a bunch of guns and ammo....


Splitpair
Premium
join:2000-07-29
Cow Towne
·T-Mobile US
·T-Mobile US
·AT&T Southeast

said by KrK See Profile :

And we wonder why a few people snap and come back with a bunch of guns and ammo....
Maybe they can call it going "Telco".

Wayne
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If you cannot fix it with a buttset and some bennies you ain't a technician.
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